The Forgotten Continent Expedition

haven

Expedition Leader
The best location for condors I've visited is in Patagonia, along the road from El Calafate to the Perito Moreno glacier in Los Glacieres National Park.

The road runs through miles of grassy scrublands used as sheep pastures. When a sheep meets its demise, the condors come flying in from many miles away. I counted 16 condors on the ground around a carcass, with more flying in.

Andean Condors are more than 4 feet tall when standing on the ground, with impressive claws and powerful beaks. So Doug's advice about keeping a respectful distance is wise.

El Calafate has a new airport with regular service from Buenos Aires, so it's within reach even if you don't drive the 1800 miles south from the capital.

Chip Haven
 

dhackney

Expedition Leader
haven said:
The best location for condors I've visited is in Patagonia, along the road from El Calafate to the Perito Moreno glacier in Los Glacieres National Park.

The road runs through miles of grassy scrublands used as sheep pastures. When a sheep meets its demise, the condors come flying in from many miles away. I counted 16 condors on the ground around a carcass, with more flying in.

Andean Condors are more than 4 feet tall when standing on the ground, with impressive claws and powerful beaks. So Doug's advice about keeping a respectful distance is wise.

El Calafate has a new airport with regular service from Buenos Aires, so it's within reach even if you don't drive the 1800 miles south from the capital.

Chip Haven

There are a couple of places that looked like they could be potential candidates for camping along the road leading from town to the glacier. Look at the access roads leading down to the river on each side of the major bridge about 2/3s of the way in. One side will have a big pump and fill hose for water trucks. Don't use that side.

[Note that the glacier is NOT Perito Moreno National Park. That park is noth of the glacier and is a "must see" destination. Perito Moreno National Park gets about 800 visitors a year and is the experiential opposite of the Perito Moreno Glacier, which gets about 80,000 visitors a year. And most of those 80,000 come on the morning tour busses on the day of your visit. :) The only other non-ranger person we saw at Perito Moreno National Park was a guy in a compact car who showed up at the end of the 120 km road leading to the check in station looking for the glacier. Bad day for him. ]

Overnight camping is officially not OK inside the Perito Moreno Glacier park. During the high season (January to February) you will probably get chased out by the very nice and professional rangers.

We were at the Perito Moreno Glacier in the late shoulder season, so we were able to park/camp overnight in the upper parking lot above the glacier.

We just stayed down at the glacier shooting until the sun set. When we came back up the restaurant was closed, all the tour busses were gone and so were the rangers. We moved the rig over into the corner and listened to the booms of the glacier calving icebergs all night. See the post on this thread "How Big is Big" for details.

An incredibly friendly ranger very nicely asked me to move the rig to the middle of the lot in the morning so the busses could park along the rail.

I do not think that strategy will work during the busy months.

You will need to bring all of your trash back into town. There are pullouts with dumpsters at the outskirts of town.

There are several options for camping in town. We used the police association campground behind the fire station, it's a couple of blocks from downtown. There is a municipal campground a little farther from downtown, directly north down the road opposite the fire station.

There is an LP/propane bottle exchange facility. We did not use it. The guy on the dock there was the only unfriendly and unhelpful person we met in Argentina.

There are lots of ATMs. You will need them.

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El Calafate is the most overpriced town I have ever been to, and I've been around a little bit. The community aspiration model is Vail/Aspen/Insert the name of the highest end European resort town you can think of here. Bring money.

El Calafate has the slowest internet connection speeds in Patagonia, and that is saying something in the land of molassas speed connectivity. In general, it is not even worth spending the time to try and connect. An entire day to attempt to make a single post is common.

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dhackney

Expedition Leader
The Transit Stage

2 September 2008

We just completed a two day run from our last stop, Ollantaytambo, Peru, to what we hope is our last obligatory tourist activity in Peru, Nazca, home of the famous Nazca lines.

On our trip here we covered 695 kilometers / 431.8 miles on what, in Rally-Speak, was nothing more than a transit stage, ground covered merely to move from one interesting section to another.

On a map, the distance doesn’t look all that long and I’ve got plenty of friends who ride that far before breakfast on a street bike.

But, then again, we’re in Peru. And here, even relatively short distances can be interesting.

Click here for the rest of the story: http://www.hackneys.com/travel/peru/docs/transitstage.pdf

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dhackney

Expedition Leader
Weavers 2.0

30 August 2008

The 22 highland weavers of Patacancha, Peru received payment for goods sold today. Their efforts to revitalize and maintain the skills of the ancient craft were rewarded with a small percentage of the millions of tourist dollars that annually flow through the sacred valley into Machu Picchu.

After receiving payment, discussing new products and anticipated market needs, they negotiated for the types of weavings required to meet market demand and the wholesale prices for those products. The weavers were efficient members of a smoothly functioning market.

Things had not always been so.


Click here for the rest of the story: http://www.hackneys.com/travel/peru/docs/weavers20.pdf

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dhackney

Expedition Leader
Salinas

14 August 2008

The hunter-gatherer bent down to the bubbling spring. The water was clear like the other springs he knew. The water was warm like some other springs he knew.

He cupped his hand into the water and tasted it, then quickly spit it out.

This water didn’t taste like the other springs he knew.

From that day, many millennia ago, humans have been at the bubbling spring.

Click here for the rest of the story: http://www.hackneys.com/travel/peru/docs/salinas.pdf
 

dhackney

Expedition Leader
Updated Route Map

I updated our expedition route map to reflect our recent camp sites.

I also added elevation data to the info window for each waypoint.

The expedition route map is located here: http://www.hackneys.com/travel/index-routemap.htm

Please note:

  • To view the information for a camp site waypoint, click on the waypoint marker to open the info window.
  • Most waypoints have photos. To view a larger photo click on the thumbnail in the info window.
  • The route map requires a current version browser, e.g. Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0, current version of Firefox, etc.
  • There are a couple of places you will need to zoom all the way in to see our multiple camp sites in that location, specifically Cusco and Ollantaytambo, Peru. It is best to use map mode for zooming all the way in.
  • To see our actual track (the physical route we took from camp site to camp site) download the GPX format file of our tracks and open them in Google Earth or any GPS application. Our tracks are here: http://www.hackneys.com/travel/index-gpssawaypoints.htm

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Tress

Adventurer
Love the Chicken bus presentation! Always a pleasure to read your thoughts and stories and i now can look forward to navigating our own chiken Buss road someday, hopefully! Thanks again for the entertainment and keep up the good stuff, enjoy the time guys!

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sprale

Observer
dhackney said:
I left that bottle of water there when I put the cover on the rig in Round Rock, TX.

Wish I'd known that you rolled through the Austin area. I've read some of your threads over the last year or two with interest and would have loved to have seen the Fuso up close. The furthest South I've ventured was to Guatamala by truck, those mountain passes can be terrifying! The pictures of Peru are amazing, hope your journey continues to be safe and enjoyable. Keep the beautiful pictures coming!
 

dhackney

Expedition Leader
The Promised Land

After more than a month of driving chicken bus roads, where our typical day’s average speed hovered around 20 to 30 kilometers per hour (12.5 - 18.6 mph), it was heaven to be on the Panamericana cruising along at a blistering 80 - 100 kph (49.7 - 62 mph).

We were so enamored with the smooth asphalt and warp speed we were able to more-or-less ignore the pervasive, endless-border-town creepiness of the Panamericana.

As I hummed along with the first music pumped out of the stereo in months, I plotted the hundreds of kilometers we’d make in the remaining hours of the day. I planned to drive deep into the night to make up for the many hours of errands and provisioning we expended before our departure.

My mental map was well up the coast toward our destination at a small coastal village for a GivingPictures project when my daydreams were shattered by an explosion from the rear of the Fuso.


Click here for the rest of the story: http://www.hackneys.com/travel/peru/docs/thepromisedland.pdf

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dhackney

Expedition Leader
Black and White

26 September 2008

If you had to choose between black and white, which would you choose?

The Cordillera Blanca (White Mountain Range) is the second highest mountain range in the world, trailing only the Himalayas, and features thirty three major peaks over 5,500 meters (18,045 ft) tall in an area 21 kilometers (13 mi) wide and 180 kilometers (112 mi) long.

People come from all over the world to climb the mountains in the Cordillera Blanca, as well as hike the trails below the peaks and view the stunning scenery.

The Cordillera Negra (Black Mountain Range) is a parallel range of mountains that is almost as tall, but due to its location blocking the warm winds from the desert and the Pacific Ocean, remains devoid of snow.

So, if you had to choose between black and white, which would you choose?


Click here for the rest of the story: http://www.hackneys.com/travel/peru/docs/blackandwhite.pdf

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dhackney

Expedition Leader
Lunch with Ernesto

11 October 2008


We stopped at Cabo Blanco, Peru, for lunch today.

Cabo Blanco is popularly known for a couple of things, and less known for two additional things, both arguably more significant.

From our lunch spot, we could see the first of the less known, but more significant, features of Cabo Blanco.


Click here for the rest of the story: http://www.hackneys.com/travel/peru/docs/lunchwithernesto.pdf

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