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Iain_U1250
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Whilst I am waiting for the paint to dry on the axle housing, I thought I would post a few screen shots from the engine re-build. I recorded the whole process on GoPro cameras. When I get time I will try and put a bit of video together of the whole process.
Installing the last valve on the cylinder head, pretty easy process, except valve springs are quite strong, and I needed an extension on the handle of the spring compressor to be able to make it work.
Completed cylinder head, it has the valves re-ground, and I have ground out all the casting marks, matched the exhaust ports to the exhaust manifold and generally radiused all of the sharp edges, I would not call it "polished and ported" but I think it will be a bit better than before I did it.
Plate type oil cooler insides, this is the primary oil cooling system on the truck, it must work from the water jacket around the block, not much air cooling going to happen on that side of the block.
This what it looks like ready to be attached, quite a big block of cast iron.
Installing the crank - that thing is damn heavy, and there is not much place to grab onto it.
Torquing down the main bearing caps, three stage torquing required. The manual makes it all quite clear how to do it.
Camshaft installed, this was a bit trick, maybe I should have installed the camshaft before I put the crank in, still it went in OK, just had to take a bit longer and be really gentle so as not to damage the bearings. When the installed the new bearing in the block, they asked for the cam to ensure it was a proper fit as they sometime are really tight, and need some "bearing scraping", but mine was OK.
Timing gear installed - there are marks on both the camshaft timing gear and the crankshaft gear, makes it very easy to get it right. Ther are two marks on the timing gear, and one on the crank. The crank one goes in between the two marks on the cam timing gear.
Block ready to install the pistons, I had to get a new piston ring compressor, the fancy "Made In Germany" set I got off e-bay broke the very first time I tried to use it.
Crank with all big ends and mains installed. Having an decent engine stand is so much better, I could rotated the block very easily, made life so much easier. All my previous engine builds have be done on the workshop floor, manhandling the block around each time I needed to turn it over. This one is way too heavy to even thing about doing that.
Installing the last valve on the cylinder head, pretty easy process, except valve springs are quite strong, and I needed an extension on the handle of the spring compressor to be able to make it work.
Completed cylinder head, it has the valves re-ground, and I have ground out all the casting marks, matched the exhaust ports to the exhaust manifold and generally radiused all of the sharp edges, I would not call it "polished and ported" but I think it will be a bit better than before I did it.
Plate type oil cooler insides, this is the primary oil cooling system on the truck, it must work from the water jacket around the block, not much air cooling going to happen on that side of the block.
This what it looks like ready to be attached, quite a big block of cast iron.
Installing the crank - that thing is damn heavy, and there is not much place to grab onto it.
Torquing down the main bearing caps, three stage torquing required. The manual makes it all quite clear how to do it.
Camshaft installed, this was a bit trick, maybe I should have installed the camshaft before I put the crank in, still it went in OK, just had to take a bit longer and be really gentle so as not to damage the bearings. When the installed the new bearing in the block, they asked for the cam to ensure it was a proper fit as they sometime are really tight, and need some "bearing scraping", but mine was OK.
Timing gear installed - there are marks on both the camshaft timing gear and the crankshaft gear, makes it very easy to get it right. Ther are two marks on the timing gear, and one on the crank. The crank one goes in between the two marks on the cam timing gear.
Block ready to install the pistons, I had to get a new piston ring compressor, the fancy "Made In Germany" set I got off e-bay broke the very first time I tried to use it.
Crank with all big ends and mains installed. Having an decent engine stand is so much better, I could rotated the block very easily, made life so much easier. All my previous engine builds have be done on the workshop floor, manhandling the block around each time I needed to turn it over. This one is way too heavy to even thing about doing that.
Vegard_S
Adventurer
Wow Ian, this is great! Your truck gonna be one amazing machine when it's finnished! Looking forward to the movie of the engine rebuild! May I also ask what kind of budget we are talking about for a complete engine reebuild ike you are doing now? (I only ask since I may be tempted to do a simmilar overhaul myself.
Iain_U1250
Explorer
The basic re-build kit ( pistons & rings, all seals and gaskets, bearings, etc) cost $1100. The balancing etc cost $360, and the valve grinding, head re-facing costs $350. The engine I'm re-building only had 2000 or so hours on it, so I didn't have to worry about the crank or the bores, as the hone marks were all still one the bores, and hardly any wear on the bearings at all. If your engine is a bit old and tired, I would budget about $3000 to do it yourself. I have heard prices of $20K from the workshops for just the engine, and I know one mog owner who paid $35K drive in-drive out for his engine re-build. Provided I have not messed up anything serious, then I have certainly saved quite a bit of money. I have also sent the 170hp injection pump I have off for re-calibration for some more power, and I'm getting the injector nozzles upgraded to the 170hp specification. I am hoping with my new turbo, intercooler and with all the work I have done balancing and on the head, I should be around 190-200hp. Being a camper truck, it will be close to GVM all the time, so I think the extra power will be useful, but mainly I am doing all these things for the fuel consumption, hopefully a properly tuned motor will give me lower consumption and a longer range.
piratexpress1369a
Explorer
do you have an engine hoist to lift it in the truck when you are ready
Vegard_S
Adventurer
Thank you Iain for the thoroughly answer, on my trip back from Germany earlier this week my newly acquired U1700L with OM352A and 168 Bhp had an average fuelconsumption at 19L/100km, the weight of the truck was then 8600kg including the crane and quite massive support-frame. Oil consumption was aprox 5L /1650km. So it might be a little higher than what I was hoping for and expecting. Thus the possible engine rebuild-plans...
Iain_U1250
Explorer
Yes, I hope it is big enough to lift it over the frame I think it is, and it can handle the weight.
One source of oil consumption is the manifold intake gasket, I would check that first. Some people re-use the intake gasket a few times when setting the valve clearances, but the gasket is pretty narrow between the oily parts and the intake.
Check the rocker cover is flat, and only tighten it down to the specified torque, over tightening would make it distort and could cause a leak. It would be more apparent when engine braking down a hill, if you can get someone to drive the truck and you follow it, look for any blue smoke when engine braking and then when getting back on the accelerator. It is worth a try, and might save you re-building the engine.
Nice work with the engine, Iain! (as with all the rest of your project, of course).
It makes me remind the one I did with my truck, long, long time ago. It took me eons to finish it; seems you were pretty fast in comparison. It was my first engine rebuild, though.
Keep up the good work and let us know.
Kind regards from the other side of the hemisphere.
Pairoa
It makes me remind the one I did with my truck, long, long time ago. It took me eons to finish it; seems you were pretty fast in comparison. It was my first engine rebuild, though.
Keep up the good work and let us know.
Kind regards from the other side of the hemisphere.
Pairoa
Iain_U1250
Explorer
Another milestone reached today. The old engine is out, and within a few days I will be putting in the new one.
It was quite a process, but it went fairly smoothly.
First was to remove the bull bar and all the things in the engine bay that might be in the way.
Then detach the crawl through, clear out the rest of the things that may get damaged,
Then tilt the cab - the scary part
Finally, remove the engine,
Here is the new engine waiting for a few more parts to arrive before it can be installed.
It was quite a process, but it went fairly smoothly.
First was to remove the bull bar and all the things in the engine bay that might be in the way.
Then detach the crawl through, clear out the rest of the things that may get damaged,
Then tilt the cab - the scary part
Finally, remove the engine,
Here is the new engine waiting for a few more parts to arrive before it can be installed.
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piratexpress1369a
Explorer
So the engine lift worked for you. .glad to see you are making progress
Iain_U1250
Explorer
The engine cleared the frame by about 1mm at maximum lift on the jack
Iain_U1250
Explorer
OK, here are the first two videos of my engine rebuild.
Part 1 - The Cylinder Head
Part 2 - The Block is currently being uploaded into Youtube, but it is pretty big - 2 GB - 17Min long, next time I'll break it up into smaller bits,
Part 1 - The Cylinder Head
Part 2 - The Block is currently being uploaded into Youtube, but it is pretty big - 2 GB - 17Min long, next time I'll break it up into smaller bits,