Why do folks say, "Jeeps aren't expedition vehicles?"

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SavageSunJeep

Adventurer
robert j. yates said:
Now and just to stir the pot.... if I were to buy another vehicle to pull my Horizon with instead of using my TJ, it would not be a TJ or a JK....it would be a Toyota truck or a Grand Cherokee diesel. The TJ quite frankly is not all that well suited for towing the AT and modifying it to more easily do so has been .... well lets just say a challenge :)
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Robert, I assume its a 'weight thing' you are referring to....how much does the AT weight in at the way you are configured?

That said I haul my M101 trailer and it appears to have little effect on my TJ, fuel mpg etc. When I first got the trailer my prime concern was overheating and I conducted some tests in the heat of the summer (temps over 110) in freeway stop and go traffic and at highway speeds and no effect at all. NOTE the trailer was not loaded and that was on purpose. I knew if I had heat buildup with an unloaded trailer then I was staring problems in the face...
 
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robert j. yates

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Don....with a EZ Awn 1800 tent, Engle 45 fridge, dual batteries, 19 gallon water tank and 2 five gallon gas tanks on my Horizon along with the 35's its pretty heavy. The TJ tows it alright for the most part although in stock form, it surely would not be happy for long doing so and some grades are still a bit problematic. Low horsepower and heat were 2 areas of modification I had to address if I were to continue to use the TJ. Travel range was another as towing I seem to get somewhere between 9 and 11mpg so with a 19gallon tank, range with the trailer was an issue.

The motor build up, the heat reduction and the Genrite 24 gallon tank were not cheap and/or easy mods hence my response to Scott and me outlining my choice of vehicle for the proverbial "if I had to do it over again" discussion. ;)
 
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SavageSunJeep

Adventurer
robert j. yates said:
Don....with a EZ Awn 1800 tent, Engle 45 fridge, dual batteries, 19 gallon water tank and 2 five gallon gas tanks on my Horizon along with the 35's its pretty heavy. The TJ tows it alright for the most part although in stock form, it surely would not be happy for long doing so and some grades are still a bit problematic. Low horsepower and heat were 2 areas of modification I had to address if I were to continue to use the TJ. Travel range was another as towing I seem to get somewhere between 9 and 11mpg so with a 19gallon tank, range with the trailer was an issue.

The motor build up, the heat reduction and the Genrite 24 gallon tank were not cheap and/or easy mods hence my response to Scott and me outlining my choice of vehicle for the proverbial "if I had to do it over again" discussion. ;)
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Robert,
I suspected that was most likely the case...weight does add up quickly.

On a simliar note I see you have a 19 gallon water tank. I was over at Bass Pro the other day and I noticed some 12 gallon fuel tanks for boats made out of the red plastic you typically see.

My question is, could this be used a a water tank???

Where did you get you 19 gal water tank?
 
calamaridog

calamaridog

Expedition Leader
JeepN95YJ said:
GET OVER YOURSELF! (this is the point where I had trouble deciding wether to post or skip this thread) Anyone who truly believes their particular vehicle or make is the end all/be all of four wheel driving, or even a particular segment of it, should consider seeking professional help in working through their delusions
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I made the mistake of catching up with this thread. Thankfully, there was some light:p
 
RoverMack

RoverMack

Adventurer
RoverMack said:
The Long Range Desert Group used Chevrolet 30cwt trucks loaded with 3 weeks supply of food and water and with a range of over 1,100 miles. David Stirling did use jeeps to great effect, but they depended on support vehicles (Chevrolet 30cwt trucks) and re supply points because of the limited payload and range of the Willys Jeeps.
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Found a video to go with this (time to kill while my son and his friends skate board)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RGXakyQuwM
 
getlost4x4

getlost4x4

Expedition Leader
because you need to drive range/land rover that will break down everytime you look at it.:victory:

i'll have to say i'd take a jeep over everything else right now.

cheap parts
reliable
cheap and easy to upgrade
lots of upgrades out there

I actually just bought a 1978 wagoneer. 401 V8, TH400, BW1339, D44 front and rear. pictures are forth coming as soon as i pick it up and haul it home!
 
AmericaOverland

AmericaOverland

Explorer
SavageSunJeep said:
Robert,
I suspected that was most likely the case...weight does add up quickly.

On a simliar note I see you have a 19 gallon water tank. I was over at Bass Pro the other day and I noticed some 12 gallon fuel tanks for boats made out of the red plastic you typically see.

My question is, could this be used a a water tank???
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I would not do it, as it's not food grade. Food grade meaning this grade does not leach as much chemicals into your water, and there are some chemicals in these red tanks not allowed in food grade containers, I believe.

Stephanie
 
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haven

Expedition Leader
The Wrangler will be even better in 2011, when they replace that
minivan engine with the new Pentastar 3.6L V6. It's got 33% more hp
and 11% more torque, and will return better mpg. Chrysler says that
90% of peak torque is available from 1600 to 6400 rpm.
 
craig333

craig333

Expedition Leader
My Jeep certainly isn't an expedition vehicle. As capable as it is offroad its very uncomfortable on a long ride, has no storage, little fuel capacity, no sleeping room and so forth. Its great for day trips but I don't consider those to be an expedition.
 
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