Wolf's Ongoing Discovery Build Thread

[benlittle]

So, from here on out, Thom, I promise for you that I'll keep my recovery tips to myself, to spare the others.

Thank you.:victory:

 

[SeaRubi]

Thank you.:victory:

Oh, you're welcome, Ben. Thank you, too, if it wasn't for your advice about the required refrigerator for glamping, my family might have had to resort on gnawing on me for food while finding themselves days into the wilderness with spoiled canned goods and yucky dehydrated foods. :elkgrin:

 

[lwg]

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Now I have made plenty of mistakes using a Hi-Lift in the past, but in this scenario, a simple bottle jack would be ideal IMO. These coil Rovers require a lot of lift to reach full extension.

I also see the common response in forums "just lash that axle to the frame". This can certainly work, but no one ever does it. Just use a bottle jack.

I do agree that the Hi-Lift becomes a much better choice when the trails get technical, allowing the vehicle to be shifted slightly or raising the frame or skid off a rock, etc.

I'm going to take a verbal beating for this, but I don't even carry a Hi-Lift jack. I have yet to find a situation where the bottle jack would not do the job safely or properly. I've seen folks determined to change a tire on an obstacle and use their Hi-Lift to do this, seems a bit dangerous to me. My alternative to this is just drive down or back down the obstacle with the flat, or unbeaded tire and change it on a safer surface. Like Scott mentions the bottle jack and a good strap will go a long ways, plus then you don't have to store/carry the extra weight and bulk of a tool most rarely use.

Just my .02.

 

[lake_bueller]

I'm going to take a verbal beating for this, but I don't even carry a Hi-Lift jack.

Everybody know we just carry the Hi-Lift to look cool:ylsmoke:

Its funny but I've only used mine once on the trail but multiple times around the house:safari-rig:

 

[110user]

mentions the bottle jack and a good strap will go a long ways, plus then you don't have to store/carry the extra weight and bulk of a tool most rarely use.

No Bashing here (right guys?). I think that is totally reasonable for 'normal' outings. Hi lifts are heavy and bulky, especially if you are with another truck that can yank you out.

But if we are talking about overland travel where you might be alone in areas with no help for tens or hundreds of miles, I would not dream of it. If you are alone these things are second to none when it comes to getting out. In our worst situation we were stuck for 8 hours in Peru at 15,000ft , the whole truck was on the frame in bottomless mud and was still sinking. No vehicles around. The only thing that got us out were waffle boards and the hijack (plus lots of digging and stacking). The bottle jack was useless because there was no way to access the axles.

This experience led us to realize having 4 waffle boards (or 3) would really help.

I also fully agree that changing a tire with the hi lift is a bad idea. Bottle jack all the way.

 

[Scott Brady]

In our worst situation we were stuck for 8 hours in Peru at 15,000ft , the whole truck was on the frame in bottomless mud and was still sinking.

Sounds like a great story. Would love to hear more of it.

 

[benlittle]

Oh, you're welcome, Ben. Thank you, too, if it wasn't for your advice about the required refrigerator for glamping, my family might have had to resort on gnawing on me for food while finding themselves days into the wilderness with spoiled canned goods and yucky dehydrated foods. :elkgrin:

No one can deny that a fridge is the way to go. Try as hard as you can

 

[110user]

It was a hell of a day. there is much more to the story. We spent the previous month climbing in Hatun Machay, Peru. Our dog was just mauled by a pitbull and we were rushing to get her to a vet. The section I needed to make it through was rutted mud for about 300m on an off camber hillside (no real road). We made it through before but this time...sank. The next 6 (i actually think it was not 8 sure felt like it though!) hours were spend digging, with a bleeding dog in the truck. She ended up with a horrible infection, I had to give her antibiotic injections for a week before we could get to Lima to see a real vet.
here is the blog entry, not much on getting un-stuck though:
http://www.terraeo.com/Blog/Entries/2009/4/21_Killer_boulding_and_a_killer_F$@*ng_pitbull.html

 

[R_Lefebvre]

Oh come on, everybody knows nobody on Expo actually leaves their driveway, right. No pics, didn't happen.

 

[lwg]

It was a hell of a day. there is much more to the story. We spent the previous month climbing in Hatun Machay, Peru. Our dog was just mauled by a pitbull and we were rushing to get her to a vet. The section I needed to make it through was rutted mud for about 300m on an off camber hillside (no real road). We made it through before but this time...sank. The next 6 (i actually think it was not 8 sure felt like it though!) hours were spend digging, with a bleeding dog in the truck. She ended up with a horrible infection, I had to give her antibiotic injections for a week before we could get to Lima to see a real vet.
here is the blog entry, not much on getting un-stuck though:
http://www.terraeo.com/Blog/Entries/2009/4/21_Killer_boulding_and_a_killer_F$@*ng_pitbull.html

But the dog made it out ok right?

Edit: Just read your blog. If that happened to me I would have a hard time not "permanently" putting a stop to the Pitbulls antics. My temper can get the best of me especially if something is affecting my family, and our dog is very much our child not a pet to us. Oh and it looks like the dog is ok.

 

[Scott Brady]

This is good stuff, you and I need to talk

http://www.terraeo.com/Travel_Pics/Pages/Nazca,_Lima,_Hauraz.html#27

 

[110user]

Dog is OK. She lost about 10-20% of her weight during the ordeal. scary.

I did loose my temper. When the dog was attached I was taking running kicks to its ribs with no effect. Strong dogs, scary dogs. The only thing that got it off was a Peruvian friend got the pit bull in a head lock and went to town on its head with a big rock.
It was one of the few times I did not have my knife, I would have used it with out a thought.

Scott, anytime. PM me.

 

[Mike_rupp]

I'm going to take a verbal beating for this, but I don't even carry a Hi-Lift jack. I have yet to find a situation where the bottle jack would not do the job safely or properly. I've seen folks determined to change a tire on an obstacle and use their Hi-Lift to do this, seems a bit dangerous to me. My alternative to this is just drive down or back down the obstacle with the flat, or unbeaded tire and change it on a safer surface. Like Scott mentions the bottle jack and a good strap will go a long ways, plus then you don't have to store/carry the extra weight and bulk of a tool most rarely use.

Just my .02.

Why would you take a beating for not bringing one? After going through a few different ways to mount the thing over the years and never using it once, I don't bring it anymore either. They are certainly useful, but I look at it as a tool of last resort. I suppose that now that I'm kind of starting over with a different truck, I might set up a way to mount it, but it is at the bottom of my priority list.

 

[R_Lefebvre]

Dog is OK. She lost about 10-20% of her weight during the ordeal. scary.

I did loose my temper. When the dog was attached I was taking running kicks to its ribs with no effect. Strong dogs, scary dogs. The only thing that got it off was a Peruvian friend got the pit bull in a head lock and went to town on its head with a big rock.
It was one of the few times I did not have my knife, I would have used it with out a thought.

Scott, anytime. PM me.

The pit survived the rock attack?

Awesome pics, you stick to bouldering?

 

[110user]

The pit survived the rock attack?

Awesome pics, you stick to bouldering?

The pit survived fine.. bleeding but uneffected. scary

Been climbing for the last 15 years, sport and trad, but bouldering is my passion. Although as I get older my tendons are starting to ask me to get on a rope more!