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docdave

Aspiring overlander
Van vs Truck.... It looks to me that the van has several advantages...1) better visibility and higher vantage point, 2) Shorter wheelbase (shorter turning radius) for a given bed length, 3) better approach and, possibly, departure angle and 4) not every Tom, ******** and Harry has one. Lots of us make expensive and extensive mods to trucks anyway...how much more would a converted van really cost?
 

NothingClever

Explorer
Van vs Truck.... It looks to me that the van has several advantages...1) better visibility and higher vantage point, 2) Shorter wheelbase (shorter turning radius) for a given bed length, 3) better approach and, possibly, departure angle and 4) not every Tom, ******** and Harry has one. Lots of us make expensive and extensive mods to trucks anyway...how much more would a converted van really cost?

If Marc and Chris can nail the cab-to-camper portal, they will likely be a huge success at competing with the EarthCruiser at a much lower price point. Granted, the EarthCruiser will offer much more living and storage space but the "XPanagon" will be a categorical competitor.
 
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haven

Expedition Leader
The author of the above review posts here using the name drodio. He has posted a couple of threads that describe his visits to the camper manufacturers' factories.

One manufacturer drodio didn't visit is Alaskan Campers. AC uses a screwed and glued wood frame that has proven to be very durable, but also considerably heavier than other campers.
 

briferg

Observer
I have gone through this thread and did not see this question. For colder climates how have users dealt with the thermal gap where the canvas is in the bed area? Seems like the whole camper is very well insulated and then you sleep where there is a 3 wall fabric room. In temperate climates this would be no problem, it might even be an advantage. But I saw the photos of the vehicle in snow and it just seems like it would get chilly.
 

OutbacKamper

Supporting Sponsor
I have gone through this thread and did not see this question. For colder climates how have users dealt with the thermal gap where the canvas is in the bed area? Seems like the whole camper is very well insulated and then you sleep where there is a 3 wall fabric room. In temperate climates this would be no problem, it might even be an advantage. But I saw the photos of the vehicle in snow and it just seems like it would get chilly.

I had the same concerns. The original design was for sliding or folding hard panels in the cab over area. This proved to be too complex to work properly. However Marc has developed a quilted 3 layer fabric design that he feels works well in cold climates. There is an outer layer, a middle insulation layer and an inner breathable goretex layer. He was planning to offer a removable rigid insulated panel system as an option - I don't think anyone has asked for this option yet, but it is a possibility (the panels would stow below the bed when not in use).

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ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
So far I've spent 5-6 nights below freezing in the XP. The coldest was 23. The heater works great, will run you out of there. I have the insulated panels that go over the front windows, pretty sure they come with every unit. The front of the bed is cooler than the rest of the camper since there are no vents up there but it was fine with me! I prefer to be cooler than my wife. We only had a light comforter.
 

Nimbl Vehicles

Freedom to Roam
I have gone through this thread and did not see this question. For colder climates how have users dealt with the thermal gap where the canvas is in the bed area? Seems like the whole camper is very well insulated and then you sleep where there is a 3 wall fabric room. In temperate climates this would be no problem, it might even be an advantage. But I saw the photos of the vehicle in snow and it just seems like it would get chilly.

Check this blog. Those guys are using the XP to chase some powder.So far no complaints about keeping the camper warm.
http://www.backcountryblonde.com/
 
Winter Camping in an XP

I have gone through this thread and did not see this question. For colder climates how have users dealt with the thermal gap where the canvas is in the bed area? Seems like the whole camper is very well insulated and then you sleep where there is a 3 wall fabric room. In temperate climates this would be no problem, it might even be an advantage. But I saw the photos of the vehicle in snow and it just seems like it would get chilly.
Check this blog. Those guys are using the XP to chase some powder.So far no complaints about keeping the camper warm.
http://www.backcountryblonde.com/

We bought XPCamper Prototype 1.1 together with the Ford F350 under it in order to use it as a mobile ski chalet. Our first trip was 4 weeks full time leaving Santa Ynez CA in mid October, heading out to Utah and finishing at XP in Grass Valley. During this 'trial trip' we did our best to thoroughly test every aspect of the camper to make sure it would fit our needs.

At the outset we were offroad driving novices. The trip included 4 days in Death Valley including a trip out to Racetrack Playa and over Hunter Mountain, followed by 4 days on the Grand Staircase Escalante covering the Hole in the Rock, Left Hand Collet Canyon, Smokey Mountain Road and Alstrom Point. We then drove across Monument Valley, through the Valley of the Gods and camped overnight at Muley Pt.

On our arrival in Moab we had to wait 2 days when the unseasonably warm weather broke and snow fell. We were the first vehicle to transit the White Rim Trail after the snow falls, having the place virtually to ourselves. Although a tight fit at times you can drive an XP Camper on a full size truck shod with 35" tyres all the way through.

Since our plan was to spend 5 months living full time in the camper in ski resorts, our next stop was Park City. That was our coldest night of the test trip: 27f. One of our discoveries (unsuprisingly) had been that one 125w solar cell and one 210amp/hr battery weren't going to be sufficient for our needs. As a consequence we did not have the spare electrical power to run the heater that night. We sleep with a top sheet, decent down comforter and a fleece blanket over the top, and had a good night's sleep that night.

While we made a trip back home to England, Marc and the XP team fitted a second 210amp/hr battery and an extra 250w of solar panels. In addition to the charge lead connecting to the trucks alternator we hope this will meet our power demands.

We have been very impressed with 'Snomad' - both truck and camper have exceeded our expectations. Where there have been issues to attend to it has been because the camper was the original prototype, rebuilt after a thorough testing, and had been built for weekend desert use, not for chasing powder snow full time.

The last week we have been skiing the Lake Tahoe resorts, enduring 50mph winds, heavy snowfalls, and making final adjustments at XP to set ourselves up for 5 months in the snow in Utah, Colorado, Wyoming and British Columbia. So far we have seen 19f on two occasions; both were comfortable nights for us as the heater can turn the camper into a sauna if you let it. Condensation is virtually non existent if you crack the two vents. We use the soft insulating panels that velcro over the tent windows, but don't feel the need for the hard sided sections Marc originally envisioned. Yes the bed area is slightly cooler than the rest of the camper, but if you wanted it warmer you could turn up the thermosat or have an extra air vent fitted close to the bed. The dual top diesel heater for air and water is superb. We can completely understand why Marc designed the camper around it.

If we were to win the lottery tomorrow we would likely be ordering a brand new XP; as it suits us so well and can take us to places where a Unicat or Earthroamer wouldn't fit. For my reasoning on the selection of the XP over other vehicles check out the 'About' section of Emma's blog.
www.backcountryblonde.com

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ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
Gavin--- Great meeting you guys in Vegas, sorry we didn't get to do some camping! We went up to the Sierras and had a great time. Have fun in the snow!
 
One question about the soft sides... I saw in a video that while the top is lifting there appears to be an open gap between the soft material and the hard side, until the top is fully raised and the material is taunt. If I've got right and yours is same, are you concerned at all about letting the weather in ?

And a second question... have you the dimensions of the rear storage compartment ? I'm curious about how big of a tire would fit in there.

I can only comment on the prototype but...

The tent fabric zips in place along the top and bottom edge. Handily this means you can unzip it completely in good weather, unless you have bugs, when you can unzip the clear windows leaving the bug screens in place. In order to lower the top you need to pull the fabric ends off the tough Velcro strips that hold it in place, and pull the fabric inside the bars that the roof slides down on. Then make sure the fabric bends inward and the extra insulating panels are pulled down flat on the bed. The roof stops it's descent before it crushes the collapsed fabric, and the shape of the roof means you only have to pull the bed covers into the centre rather than completely stripping the bed. When you raise the roof again you need to press the fabric edges back against the Velcro. It is a good watertight fit with just a tiny crack at the bottom corner where you might get a draft, but would be unlikely to leak unless you had serious wind blown rain or snow.

We enjoy waking up 10 minutes before dawn, putting on a brew, unzipping the bottom fabric edge, sticking out our heads and watching/photographing the sunrise - all whilst still lying warm in bed. :coffeedrink:

The rear storage compartment is sized to take a 33" wheel/tyre. We don't use it for that purpose though since our 35"s are too big, so our spare hangs underneath. Depth 34", Width 50", Height 11 inches. The space isn't quite square though with the passenger side far corner being cut back a bit.

Hope that helps
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Was good to meet you too Chris. The V4 is clearly a very capable vehicle with cavernous storage, nicely put together. Way more comfortable and practical than an EB Sportsmobile with shorter overhangs. Does your XP still smell of Ken Block's burnt rubber?!
 

Keyne

Adventurer
I read that the XP Camper comes with a leg/cradle for removing from the flat bed and rolling it into storage in a garage. However, I was wondering if its possible to attach legs and remove the camper so it can be used as a base camp allowing the truck to be used for exploring without the camper. Is that possible?
 

ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
Was good to meet you too Chris. The V4 is clearly a very capable vehicle with cavernous storage, nicely put together. Way more comfortable and practical than an EB Sportsmobile with shorter overhangs. Does your XP still smell of Ken Block's burnt rubber?!

Thankfully, the smell is gone. And the noise :)
 

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