4Runner vs Land Cruiser

[Martinjmpr]

I like the 4.0litre 4runners vs the 4.7, just don't need the v8. Probably would keep it pretty much stock, maybe a roof rack.

LOVE my 4.0 4x4. Easily pulls my little trailers. Decent MPG on the highway. In the city, so-so (16-18.)

Does over 400 miles cruising range seem about accurate?

Pretty easily. I typically fill up around 350 in the city. Haven't done enough highway driving without the trailer to have developed a rhythm for fuel stops yet.

Why no manual trans for the newer 4runners? Just seems like a good idea, maybe not enough people would buy.

Dude, don't get me started. 2000 (3rd gen) was the last year for the MT.

(4th-present) They're still actually built in Japan as well, correct?

Do all the 4runners come with the roll down back window? Love that.

Yes to both.

 

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Why no manual trans for the newer 4runners? Just seems like a good idea, maybe not enough people would buy. (4th-present) They're still actually built in Japan as well, correct?

Do all the 4runners come with the roll down back window? Love that.

Yes all still have roll down rear window. As far as resale around here it seems the V8s are priced a tad higher and are getting harder to find. If you've never driven one with the 5 speed do yourself a favor and do try them before you make your purchase. They are freaking smooth. The V6 was meh IMHO. The mpg is just not that much better in the V6. Think about this also, the V8 just happens to have almost the same drive train the 100's have.. The 4.7 is just a solid, take anything you throw at it, reliable engine. My 4runner is already at 178k miles and still runs like new..

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[FireGuy]

I have to question the MPG I am seeing quoted here. We have a 2008 4Runner 4WD with the V6 and we have NEVER seen 23 mpg on the highway. Ours only has 50,000 miles, runs all synthetic fluids, and we drive like grannies. I'd say realistically on the highway you are closer to 18-19 mpg. If you are trusting the mpg the factory computer is showing that has been proven to be highly optimistic by 2-4 mpg. Also, are these numbers with or without the AC running? 23 mpg on the highway is outstanding, my v6 Toyota Camry only gets 25 mpg and it is a two door with a manual.

 

[olsen_karl]

I have to question the MPG I am seeing quoted here. We have a 2008 4Runner 4WD with the V6 and we have NEVER seen 23 mpg on the highway. Ours only has 50,000 miles, runs all synthetic fluids, and we drive like grannies. I'd say realistically on the highway you are closer to 18-19 mpg. If you are trusting the mpg the factory computer is showing that has been proven to be highly optimistic by 2-4 mpg. Also, are these numbers with or without the AC running? 23 mpg on the highway is outstanding, my v6 Toyota Camry only gets 25 mpg and it is a two door with a manual.

I have a 2008 4WD 4Runner, V6, about 45K miles, also full synthetics. Best MPG I ever saw was around 21, but that was during early "break-in" miles, keeping the speed at 60-65mph and still on the OEM Dunlop AT20 tires (265/65/17). Those tires had very little traction, and I guess to go along with that characteristic, low rolling resistance.

With 255/75/17 Goodyear Silent Armor tires, I get around 18 highway, if I keep it 70mph or less. (MPG drops off fast above that.) Only other mods affecting MPG are a Yakima roof rack (bike racks) and Bilstein 5100s set at the .85" height up front. With 245/75/16 snow tires, and winter gas, mileage drops ~ 1MPG, but there are also ski racks on the roof at that time.

Mixed city/highway is 17ish. All MPGs are hand-calculated.

IMHO the only way you'll see 23 MPG out of a 4Runner is with stock-sized street tread tires, 55 MPH highway speeds, nothing on the roof, and on flat roads (midwestern U.S.?).

 

[Martinjmpr]

I have to question the MPG I am seeing quoted here. We have a 2008 4Runner 4WD with the V6 and we have NEVER seen 23 mpg on the highway. Ours only has 50,000 miles, runs all synthetic fluids, and we drive like grannies. I'd say realistically on the highway you are closer to 18-19 mpg. If you are trusting the mpg the factory computer is showing that has been proven to be highly optimistic by 2-4 mpg. Also, are these numbers with or without the AC running? 23 mpg on the highway is outstanding, my v6 Toyota Camry only gets 25 mpg and it is a two door with a manual.

23 is a stretch. I mis-spoke when I mentioned 22mpg earlier in this thread - my max is 21.3.

See my Fuelly badge here: http://www.fuelly.com/driver/martinjmpr/4runner-2

See fuel-up no. 14 from September of last year.

I'm pretty meticulous about tracking my MPG. I have only done one "mileage run" with my current 4runner, that is because we normally use it as a trailer-puller and the wife and I haven't driven out of the city limits since early October.

I just haven't taken many long trips in the 4runner without having the trailer behind it, so my MPG is skewed downwards - so far, if I'm on the highway, I'm usually pulling the trailer and if I'm not pulling the trailer, I'm just driving around town where MPG is significantly lower (often times the reason I'm driving the 4runner instead of my DD Mazda is that there is snow or ice on the ground, so I'm in 4wd which further lowers my MPG.)

I'm pretty impressed that I can get 17.5 mpg while pulling a 1200lb trailer across several 10,000' passes in CO.