All new 2010 4runner revealed...

Jim1960

Observer
That 4Runner is a much nicer vehicle. It also has 4 real doors.

I'm curious, what makes a vehicle a "real offroader"?

Real Offroader = A vehicle that when you smash in the side door on a rock you smile. When you spill a beverage all over your roof because you were bouncing so hard, you laugh. When your car fills with campfire smoke, you don't give a damn. A vehicle, that when you return home with deep scratches down the sides, because the quaking aspen were a bit to tight, you like it because it's a badge of honor.

At $39,000 or lets say $800.00 per month payment a new 4runner in my book does not qualify for "Offroader" status....
 

Cackalak Han

Explorer
i'm sorry. i didn't mean to offend the toyota fanbois on this forum.

you downtalk the pathfinder that it can not do the Rubicon, on the implication that a stock 4Runner can. sorry, it can't.

because you admit that it can't, then ****** is your problem with the Pathfinder? with your flawless logic, it's just as capable as a TE 4runner, because i'm sure i could take one to the Rubicon and compile 5min of video.

Are all Pathfinder owners this insecure? Did you notice the ":sombrero:" by my original comment? That was a joke. A friendly jab. If you had any sense of humor, you would've gotten that.

And no, your 4WD minivan couldn't even make it 5 minutes in the Rubicon....

:victory:

I wouldn't buy that soccer mom vehicle for fear of ridicule.

They're all gonna laugh at you!
 

wyorunner

Observer
Ryan i apologize if you thought i was arguing that was not my intent, and is never my intent.

Jim i find your description hilarious about a real offroader, it seems as if you have been in those spots. I dont have any real damage but it will come sooner or later, and im to the point where i dont care, i built my 4runner for this anyway. I also agree with the fact that its sad to see the FJ go down the tube, i guess i need to get one before there gone and put it in storage for a later day. But i dont see that happening

Turner
 

RusM

Adventurer
Not hatred at all. Toyota simply designed that vehicle to appeal to women (since women make all the decisions in the family) and they are discontinuing the FJ next year and pumping all their efforts into that Woman pleasing vehicle. It's sad to see the FJ, which is a fine looking off road vehicle go down the tubes in favor of this over priced soccer mom vehicle.

You sir, could not be more wrong. I hate the way those things look and so do all my friends. I really wanted to like the FJ, but the horrible visibility, three stupid little wipers, blind spots, and general look of the thing made me change my mind about buying one.
I much prefer the way the new 4Runner looks to the FJ. :smiley_drive:
 

CA-RJ

Expo Approved™
The fact that Toyota is ending the production run of the FJ should tell you enough about what people thought of them. They wouldn't end it for no reason. The fact is, the FJC appealed to a very small group of people. This new 4Runner will appeal to more. While it is an expensive vehicle, it will still sell very well.
 
In 2011 I intend to replace my 2000 Taco with the new 4 runner. That being said when my Taco was new I took it to Moab and other trails it had less than 10,000 on it! I will take my next "off road" truck off road! Whats the point of owning it @ $38,000 or $ 3,800 you purchase it to use it not look at it. The 4 runner is a more practicle SUV vs the FJ. Not saying the FJ is bad the 4 runner is more useful IHO.
 

mauricio_28

Adventurer
Closet rock-crawler

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And no, your 4WD minivan couldn't even make it 5 minutes in the Rubicon....

:victory:


They're all gonna laugh at you!


What is it with you guys and the freákin Rubicon Trail? What does overlanding have to do with it? My rig, too, wouldn´t last 3 minutes on the Rub, but it´s done overland trips that would not be out of the ordinary on National Geographic. Rockcrawling weekend warriors are probably on the wrong forum...
 

larryt

Observer
Can you guys take this to the Nissan and Jeep subforums, where they belong, or some rock-crawling Rubicon forum elsewhere? This was a mostly informative thread for a bit.
 

ryguy

Adventurer
The fact that Toyota is ending the production run of the FJ should tell you enough about what people thought of them. They wouldn't end it for no reason. The fact is, the FJC appealed to a very small group of people. This new 4Runner will appeal to more. While it is an expensive vehicle, it will still sell very well.

The FJ was only intended to be produced for a short period of time. It was a tribute vehicle to the FJ's of old.
 

ECVMatt

Observer
Just hoping that this would stay as a info thread as stated previously.

Let's not let the EP forum become a "my dogs better than your dog" forum.

Thanks for all the great info provided here.

Matt
 

strap22

Observer
Being 4th Gen 4Runner owner and having owned a couple 2nd gens too, I can say I have been a fan of 4Runners since the first one came in late '84.('85 Model)and this new one is the best to come out of the box since the solid axle days.

I was very fortunate to be able to attend the unvailing of the New 5th Gen 4Runner debut here in Dallas at the Texas fairgrounds. It certainly was a surpise to see the ground clearance and features they incorparated in it.

We just got one delivered here for the local Toyota Rep to use to do training and we spent several hours looking at everything this new model has to offer. If you have not had a chance to see one up close or drive one, I would save some judgment until you have. Like I said I am very impressed with this one and may trade my 4th Gen in for one but I will wait for them to drop the 4.6 into it. That should be in 2011 or 2012. This new 4.0 Roller Rocker V-6motors does have a lot pep but I still prefer the V-8 since I usually tow a trailer.

I understand the 4Runner is not for everyone but just like the FJ which was marketed to the Off Road segment this has proved that there is a market for Off Road vehicles and both the FJ and the 4Runner over fill that niche.

We have seen more and more 2nd and 3rd Gens and now 4th Gens getting converted with lifts, bumper, lockers, tires etc....and are wheeled every weekend all across the country. Our sales of Suspension kits for 2nd, 3rd and 4th Gens has steadily increase in the last couple years. I imagine it won't be long until the 5th Gen is seen out on the trails.

Sorry for the long post but I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents.....not blasting anyone so please don't think I am. Like all models, it is up to the indivual to decide what they want.
 

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