Building Camp Kitchen for Production - Need Feedback!!

[T.Low]

Possibly a way to fasten poles to the back side of each end, as to be able to run a wind screen from one end to the other.

Sold seperately if need be, the wind screen awning kit. Attach the lite weight DWR nylon to the roof rack of the vehicle, over the kitchen to the back side poles and down, leaving the ends open. Guide wire down taught. When the vehicle needs to drive off, unhook and roll awning into backside attatched pocket of windscreen.

 

[aslostasyou]

Can anyone provide any info on the "pump" style sink faucets out there? I've been googling stuff for a half hour now and can't seem to find the right keywords.

:edit:

On the right track - http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=rv+pump+sink&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title

 

[TooeleCherokee]

This is what I found real quick.. this is basically all there is out there that I remember (style wise that is).. http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-pumps-water/hand-pump-faucet.htm

 

[aslostasyou]

Ok, so now I'm seeing all sorts of ones like this:

http://www.rvpartscenter.com/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=31043&StoreID=36&DepartmentID=11&CategoryID

or this,

http://www.rvpartscenter.com/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=20233&StoreID=36&DepartmentID=11&CategoryID

But the problem is your limited keeping the dishes under the output which is low and close to the base. Not ideal for doing dishes when camping. What I really want to find something that will allow you to pressurize a water tank and use a standard kitchen spray as your main faucet. Maybe a foot pump or something? Thoughts?

 

[aslostasyou]

What about mounting something like this in a convenient spot

http://www.pumpbiz.com/products/index.cfm?fuseaction=pump_model_detail&product_id=7526&series_id=602

you could run a hose to a h20 jerry can or something similar. Then the idea would be to connect a standard kitchen sprayer to the other end with a t so you could connect site water (if present) and then have a cord about 4' long which would allow you to wash kids hands, awkward sized dishes, wash the dog, feet, etc... I see a lot more functionality out of something like this vs. the kitchens with sinks currently out there.

Also, is the general consensus that a plastic bin would be better than a permanently mounted sink fixture with a drain?

 

[ZR2nit]

I think a "kitted" kitchen like STUMPTACO's would be best. All I know is weather I buy one or build one I'm going to put it on tracks so it can slide out of a door I plan on adding to the side of my 416.

 

[rusty_tlc]

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Also, is the general consensus that a plastic bin would be better than a permanently mounted sink fixture with a drain?

I would prefer to see it set up for the commercial stainless steel steam tray type pans. They are much more durable. They would also be easy to replace if they do get damaged.

 

[aslostasyou]

rusty, are you saying you'd prefer to see these rather than a plastic bin? And if so, are you saying you would like it hard-mounted? We were thinking that a removeable bin (secured though) on a slideout of some sort would be good because it could double as storage and you wouldn't lose any topside space.

We're going back and forth about the water supply guys. I need some input. I would really like to see something that connects to a normal hose if present and utilize some sort of hand-pump to draw water out of a container. My thought is that most people will already have jerry cans so no need to supply those or a spot for them in the kitchen. My father seems to think it would be better to build the kitchen w/ a 3 gal water jug somewhere so it's always there.

Thoughts?

 

[cnynrat]

I agree with you - the jerry can full of water will likely already be there anyway, so don't build that space/weight into the kitchen. Keep the kitchen small and manageable.

Personally, I'd be fine with storage for a couple wash basins rather than a built in sink of some sort, but I may be in the minority there.

 

[TheGillz]

X2 on making a pumping faucet that just has a long hose rolled up that you could plop in your own water jug.

 

[5x5]

I'd like stumptaco's design with these changes.

You can buy adjustable legs like the ones he used for uneven ground.
Add removable plastic tubs, one of these http://www.grandeportal.com/Default.aspx?SecId=2&Key=%20pump&PrdId=2012&PagId=0&Key=%20pump&OrdId=3with a long hose for water.

Add a flip up shelf on the left side like the one on the right.

I'd like to see the stove area sized for a double burner stove (partner, coleman, etc...).

Don't bother with a built in cutting board. It's easier to wash/disinfect a regular one.

Oh, and the plastic slides on the bottom, so it can be slid out without catching on the legs.

 

[Lynn]

We're going back and forth about the water supply guys. I need some input. I would really like to see something that connects to a normal hose if present and utilize some sort of hand-pump to draw water out of a container. My thought is that most people will already have jerry cans so no need to supply those or a spot for them in the kitchen. My father seems to think it would be better to build the kitchen w/ a 3 gal water jug somewhere so it's always there.
Thoughts?

I don’t think it would be practical to set up something that can work with either a water hose (pressurized) or with a hand pump faucet, but I could be wrong. AFIK the hand-pump faucets aren’t designed to work with a pressurized system.

An option might be to go with a pressurized system with a regular (non-hand-pump) faucet. Then for boondocking (without ‘city’ water available) include a ‘pressurizable’ tank, (like the modified Hudson sprayer showers that other members have put together.

That way when city water is available, the hose pressurizes the system. When it’s not available the pump-up tank pressurizes the system.

Of course, that rules out the option of dropping a line in any available water can.

Just a thought.

 

[FLYFISHEXPERT]

I don't know if I like the idea of a pressurized tank, because you have to have something to pressurize it with.

When I designed my water system for my 4Runner, I went with a submersible pump that sits in the bottom of my water jug. (similar to BajaTaco’s design)

You can see my build here. I think you could do something similar by mounting the faucet to the sink, and running the hose out the back to the jug.

This image is from the manual from my faucet. It shows how to connect a city water line to an on-board water system.

One additional idea with the sink might be to have a small RV sink with a drain and plug. You can run a drain line down through the bottom of the kitchen unit where you could place a 5gal bucket. I think that might be easier to work with than trying to pull out a tub full of water.

Just an idea.

 

[overlander]

I'll vote for a design that leverages external water supplies. As for hand pump vs pressure, it seems that options can be made to accomodate either fixture type, at the discretion of the buyer of the unit. I'm for the steel tank, but plastic isn't a deal breaker.

I like the flexibility of using either water cans, city water or onboard tank. I think the plumbing for the unit goes to a standard hose connection bulkhead mounted to the box. the differences can then easily be made by what you connect to it.

 

[evldave]

I don’t think it would be practical to set up something that can work with either a water hose (pressurized) or with a hand pump faucet, but I could be wrong. AFIK the hand-pump faucets aren’t designed to work with a pressurized system.

Not sure if this would help, but standard RVs use a pressure reducer so that regular water pressure doesn't blow out the plumbing in trailers. You might be able to include this at the inlet for shore water to reduce pressure so a hand pump wouldn't get blown up by it (might take some tinkering).

If you can't work out a dual system, my vote would be put something together for a portable water container over shore or pressurized system. My 2 cents