Do you feel the need to have a weapon when camping

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I'll begin carrying my Mossberg 500 (along with my 9mm sidearm) loaded with Winchester PDX1 on our backcountry adventures. If we are in a location where I'm legally allowed to have the gun out in the open when around camp, I will. I've had enough bad/odd encounters that I feel its warranted.

3 rounds of Winchester PDX1 (3 slugs and 9 00buckshot). 5 paces.
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The exit "wounds" of the slugs.... quite devastating. FYI these rounds explode cantaloupe.

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I just got rid of my Taurus PT145 and picked up a Glock 17 for me and a Taurus 709 slim for the wife. I have not shot the slim but the Glock is pretty dang sweet. IDk that I have said it in here before but I am primarily a rifle shooter. I have 2 shotguns and a few pistols but just prefer a rifle. That said, I just found a revolving rifle that has peaked my curiosity so I may have to find one to test shoot. The Circuit Judge revolving rifle. I just want to try it.
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No, I don't usually feel the need to have a weapon when camping or hardly anywhere else I go - but since I can't predict where or when the next thief, carjacker, tweeker, or sociopath may actually cross my path, I'm always carrying just in case.
 
Never felt the need to carry while camping, not ever. Obviously a shotgun or 22 might be around during small game and upland game season.:coffee:
 
My buddies and I almost always have quite a few guns around when we are back country camping, but mostly that's because we plan to target shoot and/or hunt. At night when we go to sleep, most of my friends and I usually keep the firearms locked up in the vehicles. I bring knives too, but not really with self-protection in mind (though the Woodsman's Pal might come in handy in such scenario). Bear spray is my primary self-defense tool at night.

One night my buddy and I kinda freaked each other out talking about bear attacks. We each brought handguns to our respective tents that night. But I laid there thinking about accidentally shooting my buddy in the confusion of a night-time bear visit and I decided to unload my gun. I decided to rely on the bear spray instead.

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In the spring of 2012 a group of us (maybe 10 vehicles) were camping in the Ozarks northwest of Russellville, Arkansas.We had planned to camp at nice creek-side spot but it was already occupied so we moved to option B about 200 yards up the trail. Well a few of us were still sitting around the campfire at 10:30PM when a middle aged woman walked up into the camp. It was kind of freaky, as I was the first to see her appear in the dark, wearing white shirt and shorts with bleached blonde hair... being lit from the campfire... coming out of the dark... yeah, kind of freaky.

I motioned for the group to turn and look to make sure I wasn't crazy and sure enough she walks right up to the campfire and blurts out "How the ******* do I get out of here? Where is the nearest town? I can't stay here, where's the town?!!?? Can yall drive me to the nearest town?! Where am I so I can have a friend come pick me up?!?" We all sort of cleared our throats at the same time and between the 6 or so of us we all put a few words in: "well, mam you're in the middle of the national forest, its 10:30, getting colder, you have no flashlight and there are tons of forks and turns that we dont know.... plus you're at least 20 miles from the nearest town... and we pretty much need GPS and paper maps to get us here.... Maybe you should go back to your camp." To which she rebutted "you call yourselves men? you wont even help me out? I can't go back to that man down there?! No one wants to help me?!?" We asked if she was hurt, in danger, or just upset... to which she just responded "no no no i just need to get out of here!"

I think the person with the most knowledge of the area drew her a map with the best plan of action but insisted for her to go back to camp. She walked off into the dark....

About 20 minutes later she walked back to her campsite, trying to sneak passed as best she could.... I think she had calmed down and was embarrassed at that point.


My point being, her boyfriend/lover/etc could have gone ballistic rampaged through our camp, shot at us, whatever.... you never know... But we did what we could and acted how we felt was appropriate...

To me having a weapon is another tool to be prepared with. Its a tool for hunting and a tool for the crazies.
 
90% of our travels are off the beaten path and boondocking. And most of the time it is done alone, the wife, the dog, and I.

Generally if someone approaches our camp they are either in dire need of something, or up to no good.


So yes, Im always armed.


Experience shows that the out of the way places seem to attract some serious weirdos.
Not sure if I fall into that category or not, but at least Im always prepared, and never looking to cause trouble. :coffee:


We have had some odd run-ins that can get strange real fast. Though I have noticed a HUGE decrease just since getting the hound dog.
Ive found that just having a dog along steers most of the would be/could be problem folks away.
 
I think of carrying in the same way I think about wearing a seat belt or having a fire extinguisher. Don't plan to use any of those things, really, really hope I never have to, but it's there just in case.
 
Just another tool in the toolbox. I've run across a few sketchy types during my travels and having one probably prevented an assault on at least one occasion.

It's really simple though, if you don't feel like carrying one then don't. I don't criticize people for their choice either way.
 
I think of carrying in the same way I think about wearing a seat belt or having a fire extinguisher. Don't plan to use any of those things, really, really hope I never have to, but it's there just in case.
Exactly. Well said.

When I'm in town, I carry a pistol 24/7, unless I'm at work (and even then it's locked up in my desk right next to me) or out drinking. I also have a Leatherman that goes with me everywhere. When I'm out of town, I always have a rifle with me too. Especially since I go backpacking frequently, and more often than not I'm alone for days at a time where there is spotty signal back in some pretty rugged country. Aggressive wild animals and weird friggin people are not all that uncommon.
 
I posted this on the KRFF site and thought it relates here also.



Note: I held off posting this for a few weeks, waiting to see if the Rangers found anything out. So far no reply from them, so I thought people who visit the general area should know about what happened.


Last month I headed up to a fairly remote area of the Kern Plateau for some small water fly fishing, just me and our 3 dogs. The place I go is surprisingly remote and each time I visit I'm amazed we can drive there. To get to this area you travel about 20+ miles on dirt roads. How remote is it, well for the last 17 miles of dirt road, I did not see another person, in fact, I did not see anyone until very early Sunday morning.

When we arrived, it was perfect, warm sun, a little windy, but the location is one the best in the Sierra's. I spent the next days hiking, exploring and fishing for native trout, catching dozens and releasing them for next time. Life was good. On Saturday, I went to make dinner and could not find the oil? It was there earlier, so I started looking around and noticed a few other things were missing, salt and pepper, can goods, etc...******? Remember, this is way out there and I have seen no one for 3 days. No tire tracks on the roads since the last storm, but mine! Plus, all these items are in a metal box with spring clamps.

Huh! Well, someone took them while I was out and about. They must have needed these items pretty bad to "Borrow" them without asking or even a note. I was never gone for more than a couple of hours, but... There were also other things that could be borrowed that were more valuable, so maybe they were just hungry?

Well, the dogs and I had a nice meal (minus salt and pepper!), had a cocktail or two and enjoyed a clear 8000' star filled night. I slept on the roof rack and dogs in the back of my FJ60. It was pretty darn cold, all the water froze each night, so we were all were tucked in pretty tight. Slept like a baby...Until!

Sometime before sun up, I hear the dogs go off! Thinking it's an animal, I fumble for my light. As I'm doing this, I hear a click! I know that sound, it's the magnet I use to keep my fishing poles from falling over. A horseshoe shaped magnet stuck to the side of my LandCrusher. I find the light and shine it down.... I see a guy standing there like a dear in the headlights with my fly rod in his hand! Remember we have seen no one for 3 days and nearly 20 miles! I yell, he drops the rod and he takes off into the tree's!

It was dark, and I was just woken up, but I could see enough of the guy to make out he was pretty scruffy looking and was not carrying any kind of pack. I assumed he must be camped around somewhere close to be out at around 5AM! At that point I'm awake, so I get up and start to think about what's just happened and then missing food comes to mind! I kept my pistol close and let the hounds have a look about while I sort things out.

As the sun comes up, it's about 30 degree's, so I make some tea and try to decide what to do. The dogs did not chase anyone, I had yelled get the f&^^$ out of here before I get my gun at the guy, it had been a couple of hours, so I decided to just pack it in, instead of fishing as planned. Packing and the drive out were uneventful, except in my mind.

I stopped by the Sequoia Ranger station and reported what had happened that morning. At first the office staff listened to my story and looked surprised, saying they had never heard of something like this happening. They told me the LE Ranger was on the other side of the mountain, but they would let him know and for me to call back the next day.

When I called, I told the LE Ranger what happened and how I thought someone may be living back there, then the ranger started to speak and there was a pause. He went on how he did not want to sound alarmist, but that what it sounded like to him was pot growers! It turns out they having a problem with growers in the forest, and sometimes, the guys working the plants run out of food, or their resupply people don't show up, so they visit camps! WOW! I had heard about growers in the forest, but it appear to be more common than I knew about.

The ranger told me they would go up there and check it out the next day and asked for detailed location of my camp. He was familiar with the area and knew the exact location.

I don't know if I will ever know the outcome from the rangers looking around, but it does make you think! I have been to this spot many times, and on this trip I drove and hiked around and saw no one. Where I was, no cell phones, no rangers, no help, just me, 3 dogs and pistol...makes you think!

Doug
 
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