Freelander as an overland vehicle?

[mongosd2]

Never did I attack him, I joined when he started the BS about his TD5 swap and never did I badger him or call him a liar. Only after the he stated that he had special permission did I point out what EPA and Customs said to me. Never negative, once he proved that he hadn't changed his wayd, did I point out some of the other BS he's slinged across the various boards that have banned him.
Whatever...

 

[michaelgroves]

If there was ever justification of the banning, look at the aftermath. Even after Steve is gone, there is still an epic battle ensuing.

Wow... I'm sorry, but that statement epitomises what was wrong about this entire episode.

Here's what happened here on ExPo:

A guy puts forward a rational and reasonable opinion about some topic. About 20 other guys jump up, a lot of them out of nowhere, and viciously attack him, making accusations that are totally irrelevant to the topic, or indeed anything else concerned with this entire site.

He defends himself fairly under the circumstances, but is banned, essentially on the say-so of other people, who attest that he's not to be trusted.

Some of us think that's grossly unfair treatment of anyone, and state that opinion. And this ends up being his fault too!

The best thing Steve can do is lay low, and concentrate on his business. Fade into the background and spend time with his family, and travel, etc. Take a break from the forums. Hire someone else to be the face person.

Or, go to a new forum where people are fair minded and debate is over content, not personality, and start again. Just be a normal person, whose opinion counts no more or less than anyone else's.

Oh, wait... he did that.

 

[Scott Brady]

Michael,

If you had seen the volumes of information sent to me, and not by people I know casually, but respect greatly, you would understand.

It is up to you to trust my judgement, or not. I did what I thought was right, and know that I cannot please everyone.

I know I have better things to do with my time than continue to beat this horse. I am sure you do to... Onward.

 

[R_Lefebvre]

Never did I attack him, I joined when he started the BS about his TD5 swap and never did I badger him or call him a liar. Only after the he stated that he had special permission did I point out what EPA and Customs said to me. Never negative, once he proved that he hadn't changed his wayd, did I point out some of the other BS he's slinged across the various boards that have banned him.
Whatever...

This strikes me as the same thing perpetrated against Galileo when he suggested the earth was not the center of the universe. So just because nobody has figured out how to legally swp the engine yet, there's no chance that anybody EVER will.

 

[Brian4d]

Stephen Peters aka SafariRover, had a 1997 XD for sale about a year or year and half ago. It had a 300Tdi. It was on ebay and posted for sale on several forums before he sold it.

Can someone please tell me what I'm missing? If I remember right this TDI convert was in FL. Jrose, did it have legal tags?

 

[garrett]

I think they are saying that "Level One, Instructor Training" really means "Level One, Driver Training".
That's all I can figure out.

Exactly.

 

[Nadir_E]

Since it's not an engine swap, what about importing a non-EPA approved diesel motor as part of a vehicle import under the 25-year old rule? For example, a 1984 RHD D110 with a diesel motor might be one way to get such a motor into the country legally.

No personal experience in this regard, just postulating... :ylsmoke:

-N

 

[Connie]

Since it's not an engine swap, what about importing a non-EPA approved diesel motor as part of a vehicle import under the 25-year old rule? For example, a 1984 RHD D110 with a diesel motor might be one way to get such a motor into the country legally.

I had thought the same thing.... but had been afraid to wade into this thread. eepwall:

I'm pretty darn sure that you are right.

 

[R_Lefebvre]

I'm guessing there is a difference between a *fully legal* engine swap, and one that is done, and tagged but is sort of... under the radar. If you live in a jurisdiction with no inspection, and manage to get an engine into the country, how would the EPA ever know?

 

[HINO SG]

If you live in a jurisdiction with no inspection, and manage to get an engine into the country, how would the EPA ever know?

I knew a guy who took a grey market Benz to a MIDAS or someplace like that. They threatened to call the EPA if he didn't instal US- spec. Cats or something like that. it was a long time ago.

 

[mongosd2]

This strikes me as the same thing perpetrated against Galileo when he suggested the earth was not the center of the universe. So just because nobody has figured out how to legally swp the engine yet, there's no chance that anybody EVER will.

you just don't get it, it will NEVER BE LEGAL to swap a TD5 into any NAS Land Rover...and you can't LEGALLY import the motor into the US...

Whatever

 

[mongosd2]

Since it's not an engine swap, what about importing a non-EPA approved diesel motor as part of a vehicle import under the 25-year old rule? For example, a 1984 RHD D110 with a diesel motor might be one way to get such a motor into the country legally.

No personal experience in this regard, just postulating... :ylsmoke:

-N

a 25 year old truck, probably, and I'm sure companies are doing it. If I remember correctly, Global Rovers imports them and because they are pre-obd 2. The issue with newer trucks is if it was brought to the US with a gas engine, you only can replace it with a gas engine. The rules a very clear about this. A company like ECR that does the swaps will tell you it's up tp you make sure it legal, and that the vehicle is "for off road use only" they are very clear and up front about this. If you don't believe me, call them

 

[mongosd2]

I'm guessing there is a difference between a *fully legal* engine swap, and one that is done, and tagged but is sort of... under the radar. If you live in a jurisdiction with no inspection, and manage to get an engine into the country, how would the EPA ever know?

your right...guy's fly under the radar all the time...but all it takes is getting into accident and heaven forbid you kill somebody...

 

[logos]

you just don't get it, it will NEVER BE LEGAL to swap a TD5 into any NAS Land Rover...and you can't LEGALLY import the motor into the US...

Whatever

Since this thread has veered into more worthwhile conversation I pose a question. I have no experience importing engines or vehicles. According to the EPA website, an engine may be classified as an "automotive part" and not be subject to any approval or regulation when being imported. Putting a non-federally approved engine into a vehicle would of course be illegal. If the engine was then converted to ONLY run on propane fuel, could it receive a waiver or even be subject to EPA approval? Multi-fuel or dual-fuel engines are subject to EPA regulation based on what they are capable of running. The Department of Energy has published numerous studies stating the benefits of operating engines on propane rather than unleaded or diesel fuels. Thoughts?

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/quiktext.htm#nonusversion

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/vehicles/emissions_propane.html

 

[R_Lefebvre]

I'm pretty sure you can't run a Diesel engine on propane. Well... not for long anyway.

your right...guy's fly under the radar all the time...but all it takes is getting into accident and heaven forbid you kill somebody...

I'm not really sure why a diesel engine would have any effect on liability but... well, I guess anything is possible in the US.