How is your truck set up for an expedition??

Some folks that we traveled with had adjustable Load 'n' Lock rails kind of like these

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Which were pretty cool and made the load area highly versatile and very secure for their modular packing system. I don't know if there is anything like that available here though.

Those are aviation cargo tie-downs. They would be very cool in a vehicle, but I suspect they would be expensive. I used to have a bunch of them for setting up my camera gear in a Cessna Caravan. I wish I knew what happened to them. I would still need the rails, though.
 

I cannnot begin to tell you how much I like you LR:drool:!!! You ride is among my favorite rigs as of today. Funny, I am a Landcruiser fanatic, but some of the nicer "expedition" set ups out there are Landys...

On a side note... the Hi Lift company sells tie downs very similar to the ones Connie posted
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ca_surveyor

New member
GPS Coordinates?

I know. What really gets me is when I catch myself saying it.

I saw a Geography professor make an example of a masters student once when he referred to GPS coordinates and that 'lesson' has stuck with me since.

So what exactly did the Professor say with regards to coordinates? Inquiring minds want to know.
 

michaelgroves

Explorer
I suspect he said something along the lines of: "The Global Positioning System doesn't have its own system of coordinates - a GPS receiver shows its position in latitude and longitude. Now go and sit in the corner!"
 

proper4wd

Expedition Leader
Cite? Cite what? There are definitively no such thing as GPS coordinates. There is only latitude and longitude, which are often mistakenly referred to as "GPS coordinates".
 

ca_surveyor

New member
More GPS

Yes you are correct that there is no specific “GPS Coordinates” per se. However, GPS is traditionally based upon World Geodetic System 1984 (WGS84) which may be transformed into a myriad of coordinate systems, which often includes latitude and longitude. It should be noted that by giving latitude and longitude positions that the appropriate datum should be referenced. This would allow for a more certainty in exchanging information between users.

We happen to utilize GPS and many different coordinate systems on a daily basis, and we casually use the term “GPS coordinates” regularly. However, professionally we inherently know that we must be certain of the specific datum in use.
 

jham

Adventurer
Cite? Cite what? There are definitively no such thing as GPS coordinates. There is only latitude and longitude, which are often mistakenly referred to as "GPS coordinates".

I don't see the big deal, though. They are coordinates, and one way to find them is to plug them into a GPS.

Global Positioning System and latitude and longitude numbers seem to go hand in hand to me. Same as a map.
 

michaelgroves

Explorer
I think the whole thing was really a throw-away comment in the first place - just saying that asking someone for "GPS coordinates" sounds like you're asking for something special requiring a GPS. Asking for lat and long is more sensible, as the person might be able to answer even without reference to a GPS. But if you prefer the term GPS coordinates, I won't make you sit in the corner, because I really can get over it! :)
 

ca_surveyor

New member
Michael,

I wouldn't worry about sitting in the corner either. My point is that is someone happens to give "GPS coordinates" that's cool, but do make sure they provide the datum for those coordinates. As you know, quad maps (US) shows latitudes and longitudes, and also shows the different datum for those adjustments. I have found many a time, that just the coordinates are +/- several hundred feet. Not bad if you are traveling, but in my profession, could mean several thousand feet to negotiate around a major grade break, like a valley or peak or something that I cannot get around.

I always carry my maps and use the right tool for the job (hopefully).
 

Navman

Adventurer
I think the whole thing was really a throw-away comment in the first place - just saying that asking someone for "GPS coordinates" sounds like you're asking for something special requiring a GPS. Asking for lat and long is more sensible, as the person might be able to answer even without reference to a GPS. But if you prefer the term GPS coordinates, I won't make you sit in the corner, because I really can get over it! :)

Thanks Michael - you summed it up perfectly. It was just a throw-away comment I made. I didn't intend to start an argument over it. Don't worry, I won't pull out the flame thrower whenever someone says GPS Coordinates. We all understand the meaning and I sometimes say it myself.

Anyway, the original post is a more interesting topic that we hijacked.
 

Navman

Adventurer
One thing I don't see mentioned as much in this thread is the single person vs family issue. I also started years ago as a moto rider who could take a jaunt with only a tank bag & backpack and be fine for days.
However a wonderful wife and 2 great boys means a ton more stuff (literally 2000lbs) that includes recovery gear, spare parts and emerg supplies that I frankly was too young/dumb to care about as a youngling so many years ago.

This is what I am currently struggling with. I go ultralight by myself, but feel like I need a Unimog to carry all of the family 'stuff' that is somehow now 'required'.

The other issue is if you try to include a hobby that requires gear (MTB, Climbing, surfing, etc.) when you are taking a trip.
 

Nonimouse

Cynical old bastard
This is what I am currently struggling with. I go ultralight by myself, but feel like I need a Unimog to carry all of the family 'stuff' that is somehow now 'required'.

The other issue is if you try to include a hobby that requires gear (MTB, Climbing, surfing, etc.) when you are taking a trip.

Know that feeling - my girls are 10 and 23months. Just how much stuff does a baby/toddler need? My wife (God bless her) likes to pack for every eventuality; and by 'every' I do mean 'every'

Might get one of these next
http://www.russiantruck.co.uk/details.php?id=67
 

Geo14cux

Adventurer
HA datum is overlooked in most cases. You are 100% on with that. Most people couldn't tell you how to change that on there GPS or where to find that info...
Perhaps we should go back to TD'S or RDF! LOL! :ylsmoke:
 

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