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overlander

Expedition Leader
I am generally convinced that any modification to a Rover starts the slow process of ruining them. Even my Discovery with the limited work I did was too much.
Scott, get in your Sumo suit. When Graham reads this comment he's going to take you "downtown" and throw you out of the ring!

I think Land Rovers are absolutely ideal for modification, and intended by design to be a base for customization to suit application. In particular, the Defenders.

I think an unmodified Defender is like a 20 year old sophomore in college searching for purpose in life but so full of promise.
 
Scott, get in your Sumo suit. When Graham reads this comment he's going to take you "downtown" and throw you out of the ring!

I think Land Rovers are absolutely ideal for modification, and intended by design to be a base for customization to suit application. In particular, the Defenders.

I think an unmodified Defender is like a 20 year old sophomore in college searching for purpose in life but so full of promise.

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Gren_T

Adventurer
Tie downs..!

What the hell did I tie stuff to for the past 15years...!

got hold of 4 large carrying handles made from mild steel @ £1 each, had them galvanised & then sunk them into the corners of the wheel boxes before getting the tub line-x'd.


regards all
 

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Oilburner

Adventurer
Jl,
Current picture ? Re-incarnation almost done ? btw have those windsheild hinges for you

Hey Doug!

That's an old picture, actually taken by someone in Moab. I always forget to take photos of my own stuff but I am learning, if only to remember how they are put together in the first place!

No real progress on the truck, been busy with this:

FZJ80 TDI conversion

I need to get back on the Land-Rover end of summer/fall. I need the hinges, as well as a brake booster and pedal tower, and a bunch of other little things. Is your e-mail the same?
 

Scott Brady

Founder
I think Land Rovers are absolutely ideal for modification, and intended by design to be a base for customization to suit application. In particular, the Defenders.

We each take our own path

I agree that Land Rovers are easy to modify, but I often question the extent to which they are. A heavily modified vehicle usually tells me that the owner bought the wrong vehicle to begin with, or they should have bought a puppy. . .:sombrero:

Sure, some modifications can be very appropriate, but it is impressive to see how little can be done when you start with the best vehicle for the job. It is just my approach with is certainly not without flaw or criticism.

Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

And now for a little inspiration. . .

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Wander

Expedition Leader
I have a feeling that a 130 will be added to the Brady list sometime soon.... and just stop it with the J8-you know we can't get one here!:ylsmoke: (well without building it ourselves).
 

overlander

Expedition Leader
Ahh, that was nice. I often toy with the idea of converting my 110 to a 130 someday.

I see where you are coming from, and to a certain extent I agree. My own experience has suggested when it comes to powertrain, stick to original where ever possible. Makes repairs and parts so much easier than a frankenstein of hard to locally source bits and pieces that a standard technician can't look up in a factory book. I also think however that when a vehicle gets you as close as you want to a platform, but there are a few shortcomings, those are appropriate things to "modify". Example is upgrading to HD axles on Rovers with weaker stock axles.

And with suspension, the philosophy of "only what is needed" I think is a good one. I've also learned on previous vehicle that when it comes to suspension upgrades, not to just thow in new coils or leafs and quit there. The suspension is a complex interaction of components, and the only way to get a real sustainable improvement is to make sure the entire suspension system is corrected for the lift to account for things like driveline angle and castor.

I think however that the most common error in modification judgement is driven by appearance as the driving force. 'Cause it "looks cool" is not a practical reason to modify so as to add weight or change engineering dynamics. I'm a true believer in "Function Before Form". I need a good rational for every change I make to my 110 to fill an actual need. Even my "Expo" sticker has a purpose! And if I later determine that a mod actually was not needed or used, then off it comes. No reason to add unjustified weight, take up space, or add complexity.

I also have come to learn that when I am considering a mod, I need to take a good long time to consider it before implementing; almost like a probationary review period. In the past, I have often had the light bulb hit on a mod, then next day I go out and purchase, drill, mount, only to find that the mod interferred dramatically with another future mod, a function of the vehicle I had not considered (e.g. rear seat folding, accelarated wear on critical component due to rubbing from road vibration, or access to something later for maintenance/repair) or lastly, impracticality of use (e.g. mounting a heat exchanger connection point to the front of the vehicle then later discovering you really want it in the rear of the vehicle).

In short, when it comes to mods, "bling" is the anti-christ of the overlander.
 

Dmljohnson

Observer
i have tons of upgrades that i had to fabricate, 110 alternator, a/c, axles, rear ends, and lots more...
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overlander

Expedition Leader
I see you have the rover vents installed in the rear of the roof. How are they working out for you now that you have A/C? I've heard they really help the vents, but do they also help the A/C vent out the hot cabin air after greenhousing all afternoon? Some have said not to install them because they tend to leak water.
 

Dmljohnson

Observer
for some reason i have never seen water comming through the vents...i had a problem with the sun roof leaking, change out the seals and thats was solve, i had to seal the entire cab to isolate that heat comming from below the seats....so far no leaks, its raining like crazy here in miami florida so im looking for leaks as we speak....i spray the entire cab with that black rough top thingy they use for pickup beds also...recently did the kbx upgrade...
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maxingout

Adventurer
Maxingout - amazing vehicle and even more amazing location. The 130 has grown on me over the years with my increasing interest in overlanding, and Australia has to be one of the most fascinating and beautiful places to do it. I have never even been there, but I was hoping to emigrate there a decade ago (unfortunately, I'm in a profession that is on the unwelcome list - infact, Australia and NZ are exporting a lot of the same profession to Europe and the middle east...).

The 130 does have away of growing on you, especially when doing expeditionary travel with four adults in the vehicle. If you are going remote for weeks at a time, just food and water takes up a lot of space. If you are shooting a documentary with lots of expensive gear to get good lighting and sound, space becomes even more of a premium.

If you are only traveling for a few days with readily available backup, you don't need much stuff. Once you go remote, things get more complicated. We could not have done our Arabian adventures without long range fuel tanks and a full roof rack.

I don't do bling on my Defenders, and I modify my Defenders according to the trips that I plan to take.

It is hard to decide what modifications are a good idea and which ones are unnecessary until I have a trip or expedition in mind. Once I have an expedition in mind, everything becomes clear as to what modifications are necessary on the vehicle.
 
Hey Doug!

That's an old picture, actually taken by someone in Moab. I always forget to take photos of my own stuff but I am learning, if only to remember how they are put together in the first place!

No real progress on the truck, been busy with this:

FZJ80 TDI conversion

I need to get back on the Land-Rover end of summer/fall. I need the hinges, as well as a brake booster and pedal tower, and a bunch of other little things. Is your e-mail the same?



Christ JL,
I just stayed up till 2:30 am reading that Mitsuyota thread.
Your skill set continues to amaze me. Welds alone make me jelous.
Got those parts-I think. Let me know when you change gears back to the Cumminsrover project.
 

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