Toyota now

[AmericaOverland]

Personally, I wish I had the money to buy a new car right now. I'd be at the dealership making a great deal on, what I feel, are the best made cars in the world.

If I had THAT kind of money, Instead of the $40,000 on a new car, ANY new car, I'd spend it on maybe two used expedition vehicles and a GARAGE full of spare parts to last me 20-30 years (if stored properly).

Stephanie

 

[AmericaOverland]

The best (worst) part about the Audi "sudden acceleration" issue what that is was eventually proven to be totally false. Audi almost tanked because of the type of media blitz that we are seeing on Toyota and there wasn't even an actual issue except loose nuts behind the wheel.

Which nuts are you talking about? The nuts on the disc brakes? :sombrero:

Stephanie

 

[timmer2008]

http://consumerist.com/2010/02/toyo...ng-100-million-with-2007-floormat-recall.html

Honorable maybe...but it's still about the bucks.


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Not if you dont plan on selling it isnt

 

[AmericaOverland]

Quote:
well ill i can says now we all know how toy was doing soo good will the big 3 were going down the big 3 make a good car and toy is make well just a haf *** car clad i never got a toy!!!!!!!

Can you figure it out?


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Yeah, Boomhauer is saying he's glad he never got a Toyota because he's happy with his junk. This is one of his more lucid quotes that I can actually understand. Not that I agree with it, but that I can actually decipher it in spite of the grammar.

Stephanie

 

[AmericaOverland]

Same here.
The new 2010.5 FJ Cruisers are now coming with the Zombie Apocalypse package.

Wow, nice and high, easy target - where's the armor?

Stephanie

:tank:

 

[AmericaOverland]

I watched the Toyota/Toyoda......Hearings today.

It started out kind and easy going.

And then it got real nasty! (as I knew it would!).

I am embarrassed by our Lawmakers on Capitol Hill!

Aw naw... Those are the people ya'll elected up there... I knew this was going to happen. Nothing is different, and nothing has changed for the better. It cannot, because those people that try to make it better would be going against the powers that be and be dealt with. I'm surprised Ron Paul is still alive. They must think he has absolutely no chance against them. The day he and other small-gov't people are assassinated is the day we realize they got too close to the truth.

AND, when I have a visitor from outside the country at my place of work, and the topic happens to center on geopolitics because of the nature of the business I deal with, I usually apologize profusely for the bad behavior of my government, especially in matters of finances and foreign policy, and I remind them that they largely don't represent my views, and our government structure and the people that have control of it make it impossible for us to make sure that they do what the Constitution requires of them in their duties.

I'll leave it at that and go back to the topic at hand.

Stephanie

 

[AmericaOverland]

This last month and half me and my wife had the pleasure of renting the 2009 Chevy Cobalt and the Toyota Corolla. We had the Cobalt for a month and the Corolla for the last 2 weeks.

One word for the Cobalt, "crap". No sense of functional ergonomics exist at all. Placement of control buttons are haphazardly placed. The hazard button was placed somewhere as an afterthought.

I want to have a second vehicle to own because I do not want to have to rent vehicles, especially the ones with "drive-by-wire" now!

Oh, and someone needs to check the water pipes up in Motor City for lead poisoning...

Stephanie drinking and bathing in Perrier water... :dollar signs flying away:

 

[AmericaOverland]

And this wass jus a smaller story . . . . .

http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2010/03/gm_to_recall_13m_compacts_for.html

This quote speaks VOLUMES to me - " 'Recalling these vehicles is the right thing to do for our customers' peace of mind,' Jamie Hresko, GM's vice president of quality, said in a statement."

Peace of mind? What about SAFETY? Hello?! This is like tie rods or whatever when you continue to ignore the massive amounts of bump steer in your steering (say a quarter-turn to even begin to drift in the other direction)! Being electronic, it's impossible to detect when it's going to fail unless you do extensive testing on it (and guess what, you can't do it yourself without tens of thousands of dollars worth of testing equipment - make work, people!).

Stephanie

 

[AmericaOverland]

No unibodies here either. I would buy a car if I wanted one of those.

Buy it in 10 years from me? It wouldn't even be broke in yet and I doubt it would have hit 100k with me.:sombrero:

Maybe if we made a deal? We got ten years to make this happen. It is year 10, day 365...

Stephanie

 

[Rattler]

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_170186.asp

 

[EricBirk]

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_170186.asp

Very well written article, stating very valuable points.

 

[Scott Brady]

Toyota: No evidence of flaw

(Reuters)

Toyota finds no flaw with safety electronics
Kevin Krolicki and Bernie Woodall
DETROIT
Tue Mar 9, 2010 12:15am EST

(Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp said it had found no flaw with its throttle controls as it seeks to dismiss an external study critical of its electronic safety systems.

U.S.

The conclusions, announced at a news conference on Monday, marked an attempt by the automaker to reassure consumers it has safety issues under control. Toyota is working to win back sales seven weeks into a recall crisis that has tarnished its reputation.

But in developments that underscored the continuing pressure on Toyota, a Michigan judge ordered the automaker's top two U.S. executives to appear for a deposition and a congressional panel told it to surrender a 2006 memo from employees in Japan warning of risks to quality controls.

Toyota called its news conference to discredit what it said were mistaken conclusions being drawn from a study of its accelerator controls by David Gilbert, an auto engineering expert at Southern Illinois University.

Toyota has recalled more than 8 million vehicles worldwide for mechanical problems with its accelerator assembly that can cause sticking and for the risk that floormats could trap an accelerator.

Unintended acceleration in Toyota and Lexus vehicles has been linked to at least five U.S. crash deaths since 2007. Authorities are investigating 47 other crash deaths over the past decade.

The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has also said it is looking into more recent complaints from drivers who say they suffered acceleration problems even after their vehicles were fixed in the recent recall effort.

Those complaints have been seen by some as further evidence that Toyota could face a problem with vehicle electronics or software that could go beyond the mechanical fixes it has announced under its recalls.

But Toyota spokesman Mike Michels said the automaker had found that post-recall accelerator complaints appeared to reflect a small number of cases where repairs at dealerships had not been performed correctly.

"We're confident in our electronic throttle control systems," Michels said.

TOYOTA: NO EVIDENCE OF FLAW

 

[Rattler]

Along the same lines. I was reading this at work this AM. I like the little factoid about the researcher too.

"We do know that Gilbert was paid $1800 for his engineering study by Sean Kane, a safety consultant. Kane's for-profit firm Safety Research & Strategies Inc. works with lawyers who are currently suing Toyota over the sudden acceleration issue."

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/how_to/4348506.html

 

[Scott Brady]

I am convinced this is garbage to discredit and damage an honorable company. It has me seriously pissed off.

 

[kjp1969]

I am convinced this is garbage to discredit and damage an honorable company. It has me seriously pissed off.

The intentions are probably a little different- I doubt anyone is trying to harm Toyota per se. The motive may well be to game this whole sudden acceleration phenomenon and the media hysteria into a series of product liability lawsuit recoveries.

For better or worse, congress has delegated the business of product safety to plaintiffs' lawyers. Companies like Toyota do not fear a congressional inquiry or any sort of criminal prosecution nearly as much as they fear lawsuits.