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  1. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    The Blue body/Black Roof with a black interior is absolutely incredible- by far the best color combo I've seen on a Defender, but I can't help but think that the "obstacle" course in this video is kind of what I'd imagine would be designed by someone who has heard of what it's like to take a...
  2. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    The point I think you are missing is that LR already had vehicles for someone like yourself- you want a little more capability, but like that LR luxury- get the D5! You want more of that luxury and exclusivity you've worked so hard to afford, but still capable enough to run around on some snowy...
  3. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    It's cool that LR is trying to press what's possible, but I can't imagine this making things any more simple https://jalopnik.com/land-rover-is-experimenting-with-touchless-touch-screen-1844484452
  4. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    As if on cue.... This awesome article about the LC 200 and the choice Toyota has to make- a few teaser quotes- "It feels like a betrayal when automakers attempt to apply one model’s glory to a less-deserving product." "Now, at the end of the line for the 200 Series, Toyota is wrestling with...
  5. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    A quick look at Motor Trend- there were over 40 prominent articles on the front page- 17 of them were about the Bronco
  6. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    At the risk of being positive on this thread I'd say this is a step in the right direction-
  7. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    It's so easy for companies as they grow to get distracted. Coca-Cola at one time thought, hey, our drinks are in movie theaters, we should buy movie theaters- it was a business disaster. To grow and explore and venture out is one thing- to walk away from the very thing that made you successful...
  8. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Well Diesel, I posted that Defender Hero's article out of respect for you and the fun, no angry, no spirited, I mean great conversation we've had over almost 200 pages! That article you posted is so true- the JLWranglerForum is practically a Bronco forum these days with how obsessed it's...
  9. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Interesting perspectives from Nick Rogers and other's who designed the Defender https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/features/defender-heroes-people-behind-land-rovers-definitive-4x4
  10. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Meanwhile, this poor guy got his Defender back and it still isn't fixed
  11. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    It's beautiful!! ..and the mountains aren't bad either ;)
  12. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    More of this type of talk please--- "Good design is all about details, and Mark Allen is telling me how he managed to convince one of his interior designers to go with an easily adjustable round vent in the new Jeep Wrangler. “He was trying to go a different way,” says Allen, the head of design...
  13. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    This has made all 185 pages worth it! There's nothing in Mr. McGovern's talk about the world of off-road- hell, he doesn't mention the 1st thing about how the design will help 4x4s. Instead he dismisses the "established visual DNA" as something that was getting in his way of creating something...
  14. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Contrast that with the Ford Designer and you get the difference so easily- reading that article was like listening to a Modern Art Sculptor explain some esoteric design principle. "I allowed myself - and the team- to be too influenced by the established visual DNA of previous...
  15. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I thought one of the benefits of all of this technology was that it was supposed to make things easier....you can put an absolute noob in a Rubi and if they have the ability to push a button it's point and shoot...
  16. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    When some of the 1st videos started coming out there were some who thought maybe the people driving just didn't know what they were doing. As more of these videos look similar- the lunging, the start, stop at random, I don't know. It does seem that in a lot of these videos there's a lot of...
  17. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Meanwhile, at JLWranglerForums.com Jeep just continues to offer the same boring old Wrangler.... https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/spied-v8-jeep-wrangler-rubicon-392-hemi-production-version-begins-testing.55095/
  18. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Speaking of bronco6g.com.... there's been so much demand for the Bronco Ford has doubled the amount of the First Editions https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/first-edition-bronco-bumped-up-to-7-000-production-limit.2572/ What is that saying about how people vote with their dollars in a...
  19. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I'm making an observation based on clear evidence from the video- do you go through life thinking- "Hey, I don't have a degree in Agriculture, so I can't really say whether water helps grass grow"
  20. J

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    Except the LR did so in a less elegant and composed manner to use some of their own language from their marketing efforts. - It was more unstable as the vehicle lurched forward, then stopped momentum - All of that herky-jerky action isn't good for equipment lashed inside or out or the...
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