37 on stock quigley

[tgreening]

If you were to remove the rear flares on your box, would your tires protrude at all, or would they still be back inside the wheel well completely? WhatI'm trying to figure out is if I set up my rear just like yours, where my tires end up. Most likely I'll dump those flairs anyway, so visually that helps, but if I'm going to end up with my tire way back under the box it'll look stupid. Mine is a widebox. Assuming the flairs go bye-bye, what do you think? This is my plan B, but if it's going to look stupid I'm stuck with my Plan C.

 

[cjken]

I'll try to get you a picture tomorrow. I think they are just about flush. Without the spacers they would have rubbed the inside of the wheel wells. 3-3.5 inch spacers may make it reasonable with the wide box. I think the tires will be a bit inboard no matter what.
Ramsey says that you don't want the track widths to be exactly the same front and rear.

I saw a pict of a wide box running singles. I think it was called rhino ambo. Did look kind of funny with the tires inboard.
I saw a dodge dually running 6 military 37 last week. Made me think of you looked to be on narrow rims. I think it would be overkill.

 

[tgreening]

I'll try to get you a picture tomorrow. I think they are just about flush. Without the spacers they would have rubbed the inside of the wheel wells. 3-3.5 inch spacers may make it reasonable with the wide box. I think the tires will be a bit inboard no matter what.
Ramsey says that you don't want the track widths to be exactly the same front and rear.

I saw a pict of a wide box running singles. I think it was called rhino ambo. Did look kind of funny with the tires inboard.
I saw a dodge dually running 6 military 37 last week. Made me think of you looked to be on narrow rims. I think it would be overkill.

Pretty much given up on the dually. It can be done, just not reasonably, and I can't quite bring myself to spend the $400+ dollars/ea. for tall/skinny tires.

If plan B (stock H1 setup all around) doesn't pan out in the rear I'm stuck with recentering all the rims, which is pretty ok, it's just not the look I wanted this time around. I figured a way around the bolt pattern issue up front. Standard axle up front, and there is a place (whose name escapes me at the moment) that makes dually adapters for a front axle, which also can adapt the pattern from 8x170 to 8x6.5. They look just like the factory adapters.

Found that Rhino ambo, but without knowing what he's got going on as far as rear axle (SA, Dually axle, spacers, etc) it's hard to make a judgement. I'm guessing it's a sterling back there with spacers, but those are a few inches narrower stock than the ambo dually axle. My guess is that is what I would like in the rear if I used my dually axle, spacers, and the stock H1 rims. But dang if it aint hard to tell just what it really looks like from a picture.

 

[cjken]

Rhino ambo apparently had a stock Dana 80 with no spacers in the rear. (I believe those pictures above are of it. Found on sports mobile form.) Ramsey found it broken down in Baja.

Not sure what year it is. Mine being a 95 has drums in the rear as I am sure yours does.
Hope those pictures help.

 

[cjken]

Below Is a long wheelbase wide box on singles.
There must be a limit on how far you can stick the wheels out before you have bering problems.

Ozrockrat is former owner



Btw my rears look flush but upon closer inspection stick out about 1/4-1/2 inch of tread. The fattest part of the tire a bit more.

Zoom in on rear below. Maybe you can get an idea of where the rear tire falls. I'm betting we have the same rear axle.

 

[cjken]

 

[tgreening]

Fudge it. I'll just recenter the dang rims and be done with it. Tired of running around in circles trying to figure it out. Thanks for all your help. Those pictures helped me decide.

 

[cjken]

Fudge it. I'll just recenter the dang rims and be done with it. Tired of running around in circles trying to figure it out. Thanks for all your help. Those pictures helped me decide.

No problem!! Excited to see yours on 37's.

Too bad we missed each other in Colorado this summer.

What gearing are you going to run 4:10, 4:56??

 

[tgreening]

No problem!! Excited to see yours on 37's.

Too bad we missed each other in Colorado this summer.

What gearing are you going to run 4:10, 4:56??

It has 4:10s now. I'm afraid it would be a bit anemic with 37s and I'd like to keep it around the same effective range it's in now. I'd have to run the numbers but I'm guessing 4:56s or 4:88s. One will drop my rpm a bit, the other raise it some. I'm thinking I might go with the 4.56s because I'd like to turbo this thing after I get past the pain of the conversion and that should more than compensate for the bit of rpm drop.

 

[flightcancled]

Am I the only one that found this when searching for the rhino ambulance?

http://www.jedsite.info/afv-romeo/romeo/rhino_series/rhino-ambulance/rhinoamb-intro.html

Anyway, thanks for the info guys! Ken did you hear if there was a specific reason that axel turned into modern art or was it an eventuality from the added stress? Not sure what a mini-mod weighs, but at 10-11k and the additional body roll that brings I'm really not surprised that a full body ambo could do that.


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[spencyg]

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Rhino ambo apparently had a stock Dana 80 with no spacers in the rear. (I believe those pictures above are of it. Found on sports mobile form.) Ramsey found it broken down in Baja.

Not sure what year it is. Mine being a 95 has drums in the rear as I am sure yours does.
Hope those pictures help.

I want to know more about what happened here....Was the axle overloaded? A Dana 80 overloaded by an ambulance box doesn't sound quite right.

SG

 

[tgreening]

I'm guessing it was just a case of bad luck when a bearing went south and chewed up the spindle in the process.

 

[derjack]

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7000 mi since July
Not as much off road as I would have liked, but travel nonetheless!!

Hi Cjken

can you tell us how much room is in the inside of the mini(...?)ambo box? like low long, wide and most important hight is in the inside?

 

[cjken]

Height floor to ceiling is 5'5"
Step to ceiling at side door opening is 6'4"
Width 6'8"
Back doors to cab pass through 11'5"

 

[cjken]

What are people using for roof fans???
The ambo exhaust fan is noisy and ineffective. I'm not sure if there is any way to improve it.



I'm thinking of ripping it out and putting an roof fan in its place.

The box heats up pretty quickly in the sun!!
Ideas welcomed!!!