AYIAPhoto
Adventurer
A trained dog is not a weapon, a poorly trained dog is a dangerous weapon. As mentioned earlier I do live not far from some seedy areas where there are plenty of people who would gladly use a dog as a weapon, The difference being that those same people have no way of controlling said dog when it decides it's not done. That is most of the reason you hear about the family "pet' turning on one of the children. The breed is quickly blamed but the truth is it is always lack of training both on the dog and the owners behalf.Honestly I feel a good dog is by far the best "weapon" anyone could have in the woods.
Would you protect a persons ability to purchase drain cleaner while not being "trained" to use and store it properly?(pretty much why I am contemplating canceling my lifetime membership to the NRA even after paying all that money. I am an advocate of the responsible gun owner. I am not pro gun. Traveling into the back country with a tool that you are not properly trained and practiced with adds an additional degree of danger for everyone around you. Protecting this type of ignorant gun ownership is bad for everyone... As mentioned many times above, American children are paying the cost of this ignorance with their blood. Right here, right now, at least one per day if I'm not mistaken.
If the gun is on you, it should be in a proper holster. In that scenario, the trigger is unreachable and you should quickly notice your pre-pubescent child trying to remove it from your holster. I say pre-pubescent because any older children trying should receive a firm slap to the face or more likely the parents face for not teaching their kid to keep their hands to themselves.I don't know that much about guns. I do know my buddie's Glock had no absolute safeties. He showed me all the features such that it could never fire unless the trigger was actually pulled, but if you pulled the trigger, it always fired. I was really surprised by that. The ease of a possible accident cause by kids messing around is scary, even if the gun is on you.
I don't doubt it. I don't have a pool. My son takes swimming lessons.
And the drowning thing doesn't care if it is your pool or one at a gym...
I have full faith in my cognitive abilities, it is blind faith that people are generally good and honest or that a wild animal is more interested in my cooler which I lack. As to putting faith in my weapons, I have not much of a choice. Between a barely mobile knee and several fused discs in my back from a motorcycle accident I'm dang sure not putting faith in any other part of my body to save me.I don't object to responsible individuals having weapons and I am totally comfortable around those who respect them, but I fully admit to being somewhat skittish around the Rambo/John Wayne types who would put more faith in their weapons as a means of defense then they have in their own cognitive capacities to facilitate an outcome without violence.
I'll give you that, I fear becoming bear and wolf scat the same as I fear prison rape. Slim chances on either count but that is why I carry and also why I obey the law.For some I believe fear has a lot to do with the decision to carry a weapon or not.
I have yet to find a need to travel outside the U.S. I have yet to see all of this country, starting on a new one now would be a bit premature.Am I to assume your travels will only take you as far as your "arms" will reach? What if you want to travel outside the US?
That is mostly inline with the OPs question. Also why I carry when I am someplace unfamiliar and situational awareness means less due to unfamiliarity with possible bad circumstances.I don't need a gun to feel safe in Canada. If I was in a soft sided camper in big bear or cat country I'd likely have a rifle relatively handy...
I certainly have more faith in twelve people too stupid to get out of jury duty deciding my fate than 6 of my drunk cousins not dropping my coffin on the way to the hearse.That's great and all, but will that hold up in a court of law when I have to explain to the jury why I just shot and killed 2 mutants who have (or had) small primitive brains with diminished "Cognitive capacities"?
"Shoot first ask questions later" Is more rare among gun owners than your chances of breaking your leg in the wilderness and starving to death. That attitude is much more prevalent among criminal elements and they are one of the prime reasons I carry. Those elements are the ones with pot farms and methlabs hidden off in the woods.Dave I'm speaking of those who have a shoot first ask questions later type of mentality. People who lack process of thought, yet hold weapons, quite frankly make me nervous and I'd rather not be around them.
With my bad knee and back my 3yo niece could easily follow me into the woods, I aint outrunning anyone. Maybe 3 years ago while camping on private property near a ski resort in VT two fratboy mountainbikers started harassing my then GF. Hobbling around my truck I certainly didn't phase them. Excact phrase used was "What are you gonna do?". Perception changed when my hand was placed on my sidearm.For the places I go most often, I'm not sure many crack heads would be willing to follow, but hey, if a crack head wants to follow me on foot or in a canoe for days on end into the wilderness to do me harm, slap me silly and call me snookered but it's a chance I'm willing to take.
So spending a year or more traveling through 2263962240(yes that's 2.26 BILLION)acres of the U.S. with the posibility of meeting over 300 million people ISN'T an expedition?As others have said, this discussion is almost silly for an "Expedition Overlanding" audience as it's only relative within the US, and travel as much as you might within the states, that's hardly an "expedition."
Because the arguments and statistics put forward by yourself are often the battle cry of those that would wish to do so. I am not saying that is your motive, but it is far too common for people to (again not you) pretend to be just looking for "some common sense middle ground". That quickly causes those of us who do carry to become somewhat defensive. It is always the "common sense" argument that erodes all things. Common sense to some is to stop ATVs from entering areas because they tear up soil. If you stop the ATVs, well all those trucks with mud terrains must be just as bad or worse, and on it goes.This is the problem. Why does this discussion INVARIABLY lead gun owners into thinking somebody wants to take their guns away from them? That is NOT the point of this thread.
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