F450 Custom Composite Expedition Truck - ALL THE DETAILS

I’m back! After a whirlwind of a week - the van is sold! Woooo!

The van went to a lovely couple from Oregon. They flew in to SLC and picked it up Friday 4/11.

Side note: I set up of a Bank of America account online to simplify everything. I have always done my banking with a small Kansas credit union - so I had never experienced a fast or easy wire transfer process. This one took about 60 seconds. Transferring BoA to BoA was such a painless experience.

After the sale, I snagged a one-way rental car and started the drive back home (Oklahoma) on Friday night. Turns out my entire life actually fits into the back of a Nissan Rogue. I pitched a tent in southern Utah for the night, then kept on trekking.

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I made a stop along the way in Grand Junction, CO to see my friend Lee at Labyrinth Overland. He assembles Bison Overland Campers + does super custom interior builds. One of the nicest guys I’ve met and outstanding customer service.

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If you’re in the market for a project this summer, he had an empty slide in style shell sitting in the shop that he said he’d be willing to part with. I believe it was for a 6.5 ft bed.

One thing I noticed and loved - how he hand cuts a taper in the seat backs of his cushions for a more comfortable sit in the dinette / couch area. Will likely be doing this to mine now.

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I slept in the front seat at a rest stop somewhere in Kansas late Saturday night and finally made it home Sunday morning!
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As luck would have it, a nearly perfect F-450 pickup was recently listed for sale not too far from my house. It finally felt like the stars were aligning…

On Monday afternoon I stopped in and had a look - a 2017 F450 Platinum with only 52,000 miles. Listed for $65,500 by a small local dealership. Slightly under market price. Nice.

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I say this truck was “nearly” perfect for a few reasons…

Reason #1 - I was originally hoping for a 2020+ for the 10 speed since I'm aiming to not do MPT 41" tires. But, as the camper build continues, parts and costs continue to increase. I built in a margin of error with my budget, but we have already used it.

To recalculate, I decided to give myself more wiggle room by cutting back on what I was spending on the truck. This meant compromising for slightly older OR a low trim. Due to the change in body style in 2017, 2017 was the oldest I was willing to go.

There's a lot of aftermarket mods you can do to dress up an XL/XLT. But my main restriction - I want collision avoidance / adaptive cruise control… It has saved my life more than once.

In 2021, a guy lost control of his sports car on the highway, crossed 3 lanes and wrapped himself around a pole right in front of me. Adaptive cruise hit the brakes for me and made sure I didn’t go with him…

Everyone has their opinions on tech but for as much as I drive, adaptive cruise is a must. It makes long trips and city driving less taxing. Just my personal opinion.

Reason #2 - it has a sun roof. The added weight is a waste of payload & will be useless with a cab over camper above me most of the time. Just another place for potential leaks…But that was not a deal breaker for me.

Reason #3 - When I arrived, I crawled under the truck to inspect it. I saw exactly what I was told to expect on a 2017 super duty - evidence of an upper oil pan leak. When I commented on it, I was promptly provided a receipt showing it had already been fixed. Apparently the mechanic just didn’t clean up after.

Since this truck came with zero warranties or guarantees, and I'm no mechanic (yet :)) I booked a PPI at a different shop. I gave the mechanic this check list to fill out & added some 6.7L Ford specific questions on the back. They found a small coolant leak and a need for air/engine filter changes. Not bad for an 8 year old truck.

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While I didn’t need/want a platinum specifically - the price was more than fair given the absolutely mint condition & mileage of the truck. I also ended up liking the interior "Brunello" leather more than expected. So we negotiated a bit. + I didn’t have to fly anywhere to get it, which was a win….Sooo I bought it!! 😍

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Now what? The van is sold… I have the truck… and the builder in Montana has already started assembling the floor & water tanks in the camper shell. I guess this is for real now, huh???

This weekend is looking to be a bunch of truck mods. Top priority is removing some of the rear seats to build a platform for my dog + storage. Maybe even updating the front end to something a little more my style…

Will report back with details of that project very very soon :) thanks for following along.
 
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Once I bought the truck, I wanted all the details on it that I could find. Obviously I have a Carfax and I usually check details with FordWindowSticker but depending on the state, sometimes it doesn't work.

I ended up pulling a report from iSeeCars for $9. At the end, it included specs and measurement info that I thought other F-450 crew cab pickup owners may be interested in seeing. I am sure this is free somewhere but having these measurements for my specific truck is super helpful so thought I'd share :)

Something fun I noticed, if my sources are correct...
My former 2021 2500 144" WB High Roof Sprinter had a turning radius of 54.8 ft curb to curb.
My new 2017 F-450 pickup, 176" WB has a turning radius of 50.4 ft curb to curb.

No wonder it feels like I can still whip around town in this thing!

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ITTOG

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Yeah that tapered seat back will make a huge difference on comfortability.

You will love that truck. However, one potential problem is the panoramic sunroof? If yours is a panoramic sunroof, the cabover will/may force air down between the two glass panels. My truck is a 2018 F150 so it may be different but I have to put painters tape over the area the panels meet to stop the wind noise and prevent water (if raining) from coming into the cab.
 
Yeah that tapered seat back will make a huge difference on comfortability.

You will love that truck. However, one potential problem is the panoramic sunroof? If yours is a panoramic sunroof, the cabover will/may force air down between the two glass panels. My truck is a 2018 F150 so it may be different but I have to put painters tape over the area the panels meet to stop the wind noise and prevent water (if raining) from coming into the cab.
Thank you for the heads up on this! It listed as the twin panel moon roof. Wish it didn't have it at all!
 
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Skinhyfish

Observer
Thank you for the heads up on this! It listed as the twin panel moon roof. Wish it didn't have it at all!
You from KS? Build looks good. Lee in grand junction is awesome. I almost went that route. I chose an outpost and pick up mine on April 30. Doing custom boxes on my F350. You are going big. I’ll be watching your build. I’m excited about the composite panels. Had many campers but this will the warmest and best all around.

Cheers Zach
 
You from KS? Build looks good. Lee in grand junction is awesome. I almost went that route. I chose an outpost and pick up mine on April 30. Doing custom boxes on my F350. You are going big. I’ll be watching your build. I’m excited about the composite panels. Had many campers but this will the warmest and best all around.

Cheers Zach
Yes I am from Kansas originally! Are you?
also .. do a thread!!
 

Blackdogvan

New member
I can see why the newer 10 speed trans would have appeal however I believe the 6 spd is more reliable and will be better for you in the long term. One thing you might look into for your new to you 6.7 is a CP4 disaster prevention kit. This is a must on any engine using the CP4 fuel pump IMHO. They are cheap insurance and have the potential to save you from a massive and avoidable repair bill down the road.
 

tmacc

Member
We have a '15 F350 with the 6.7, 185k miles. Haven't had an issue with the CP4. A neighbor has 287k miles. No CP4 issues. YMMV Our diesel mechanic for the past 15 years says all of the CP4 he's replaced have been due to DEG added to the fuel tank.
We use Optilube diesel additive to lube the CP4. I'm religious about adding at every fill-up. Archoil is another additive that is highly recommended.
One thing I would recommend is that you download Forscan software to perform owner initiated regens of the DPF. This a life saver when you're far from any mechanic and you get the infamous "Limited to 50 MPH in 50 miles" message. The software has free version and a pay version.

I love this thread. We are also looking for a F450. We have a truck camper, so won't be doing all of the cool stuff you are. Since we in Baja half the year, I want to do singles. Looking into Founders wheels and a 285/70-19.5" truck tire like Toyota 608 Hyper Radials. I want to avoid having to lift the truck.
 

tmacc

Member
Not to highjack this thread, but it is traveling and overlanding related. It's also related to Allyson's new rig. Here is a forum thread from Ford Truck Enthusiasts about CP4s, DPKs, and DCRs. A really interesting read for those of us with 6.7 Power Strokes.
DCR link,
Hopefully, the link works.
We have over a 100k miles of travels with our F350 and truck camper. From multiple trips to the tip of Baja to AK and Tuktoyuktuk. From New England to FL. There's nothing worst than the CEL coming on and derate message of some kind. We're currently working thru our third experience that started in Baja as we were working our way back to the states to take our cat to the emergency vet in Yuma. It's slightly stressful to say the least. Finding a mechanic with Ford IDS software short of a dealer is near impossible in Baja.
Our mechanic sort of poo-pooed the DPK, but he's not an overland sort of guy. The FTE thread didn't necessarily change that thinking with me, but the comments about the DCR pump definitely got me thinking that it might be the way to go.
All of our issues have been DPF/SCR related. They were/are not fun. I don't think ULSD is the major issue. Our first major CEL was in Baja in '21 when ULSD was hit or miss. Our second major CEL was in the mid West with us limping into Rawlins, WY for major transplant of all of the DEF equipment. I don't even want think about trying to do that in Mexico or South America. I will say that it's possible that it's related to the age of the truck. All of the problems we had started well after the truck had 100k on the odometer.
Hopefully, this gives you all food for thought.
 

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