Future Toyota 4x4s for the US Market

[Clutch]

In my opinion, this is all Toyota is missing from their line up. Give me an open top FJ and it's game over. I don't care if it has IFS. In fact, I'd prefer an IFS. JK sales would take a serious hit.

The Rod Millen FJ-45 on a 100 series chassis was pretty darn cool.

 

[jim65wagon]

oooh! that is sweet!

 

[ChuckB]

The Rod Millen FJ-45 on a 100 series chassis was pretty darn cool.

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Concur!

 

[nickw]

I don't see a LC70 competing against 1 ton american trucks. It is really a niche vehicle that 'may' compete with a Jeep, obviously with Toyotas current offerings (4runner/FJ/Tacoma), maybe Nissan and probably not LR. Guys that buy fullsize 1 ton rigs need (want) the 4 doors, enormous cabin space and the ability to tow 20,000 lbs + no to mention the ability to run 37" tires with 8" of lift. None of which a LC70 is going to satisfy. Hency the point, it doesn't have any reason to exist in the states besides us here at EP and the minor commercial need in mines/landscaping/work truck markets. I wish I was wrong...

$40k for a street queen is one thing, $40k for rough and tuble rig is something different. Not to mention, for $40k you are getting a Jeep that is well equiped, smooth driving rig with naviagation, heated seats, etc. Not so for the LC70.

Note - this is assuming a LC70 is $40k, for all we know it could be $50k+ if they decided to bring it to market.

 

[nickw]

None that I can think of for good reason. I think IFS is the way to go, works for all the guys in Aus buying Hiluxes.

 

[Clutch]

I don't see a LC70 competing against 1 ton american trucks.

I agree with you, I was referring that it is a 1 ton capable vehicle, why it would compete against the Domestics...not that Toyota would market it that way. A HD Tundra makes better sense.

A retro styled rebodied 70 might work though, marketed against the JK. I was thinking since that chassis was already in existence it wouldn't take much to re-invent it for the American market...as the Aussies love our FJ Cruiser, the FJ is just on a Prado chassis anyway. I could see the same lust factor going towards a truer to form FJ40 retro vehicle for the US, if the price point was the same as a JK. Just look how well the Camaro on the Holden chassis is doing...or the Mustang, or the Challenger. And I use the term "true" loosely those three cars, they are fairly "true" to their original forms. I could see the same for FJ40 styled retro Cruiser....the FJ Cruiser isn't even close with the retro styling, imo. While the Jeep JK, you still know it is Jeep just by glancing at it.

 

[doug720]

Adding all the USA required emissions and safety equipment results in a complex, heavy and costly vehicle that bears little, if any resemblance to what is sold in other markets. In other words, to bring the 70 here, it would be ruined and not what we want.

Like I posted earlier, keep your older vehicles, because like the old joke goes... You can pick any two of the next three traits, but two only - simple, tough or reasonably priced!

Doug

 

[Dan Grec]

Adding all the USA required emissions .... results in a complex, heavy and costly vehicle that bears little, if any resemblance to what is sold in other markets. In other words, to bring the 70 here, it would be ruined and not what we want.

That's not entirely true.

The new emissions standards coming for 2016 in the North America market are extraordinarily close to the Euro Emissions.
So much so, an engine that passes one standard will almost certainly pass the other with very little work.

See the 3.0 Diesel coming to the Jeep Grand Cherokee in early 2013.

-Dan

 

[p nut]

The Rod Millen FJ-45 on a 100 series chassis was pretty darn cool...

That is awesome. And yes, I'd buy one and I'd venture to say it would be a great sucess if they can keep the price to the equivalent to the Jeeps. Then, only way "Jeep" and "JK" would be spoken in the same sentence would be, "I'd rather have a Jeep....j/k."

EDIT: There is a good joke in there. I saw it, but poorly executed.

 

[Clutch]

That is awesome. And yes, I'd buy one and I'd venture to say it would be a great sucess if they can keep the price to the equivalent to the Jeeps. Then, only way "Jeep" and "JK" would be spoken in the same sentence would be, "I'd rather have a Jeep....j/k."

EDIT: There is a good joke in there. I saw it, but poorly executed.

I got a little chuckle out of that.

 

[uzj100]

I would save your money and have diesel toys throw a 1hd-fte in a 100 series. Need to plant a few more money trees. $25,500 for complete conversion.
http://dieseltoys.com/toyota

 

[reece146]

The relative difference between gas and diesel per year is probably only a few thousand bucks at the most. You'll have sold the truck and be on to the next thing long before you'd recoup $25k. It doesn't make any sense.

 

[grimbo]

We Aussies aren't exactly loving the new FJ, they are selling ok but not in the numbers anticipated. Dual cab utes are what sell down here, Hilux is the top seller by far

 

[Rattler]

We Aussies aren't exactly loving the new FJ, they are selling ok but not in the numbers anticipated. Dual cab utes are what sell down here, Hilux is the top seller by far

I heard the new 4 dr. Hilux diesels are crap down there. You should send me one to prove that wrong.:sombrero:

 

[uzj100]

I always wanted a diesel cruiser. Definitely not a money saver. I have not driven anything that comes close to the 100 in terms of durability, reliability, correct size for what I use it for, etc. I will have this 100 along time. Already owned it longer than any other vehicle, 6 years and 100k miles. I test drive a lot of vehicles for friends and the newer vehicles are not built to last, they are built to be replaced. The car companies have to do this to stay in business. Land Cruisers are built to last.

Toyota needs a bare bones work horse in the 30k range with turbo diesel. Not going to happen but would be great for this country.