SSF556
SE Expedition Society
This is one of the hundreds of little secrets that the Greenies fail to tell you when talking about "renewable fuels"
INEOS Grenadier
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nickw
Adventurer
I think you should ask yourself what the IG can do better than a LC200....looks aside.
luckyjoe
Adventurer
For all the bashing it gets, I really look forward to the simplicity of the IG’s off-road mode and axle diff locks. Very basic, tried and true with no system intrusions. I’ll take the coil springs, metal bumpers, boxy shape (accessible cargo space and vertical sides), manual seats and true hand brake lever. I don’t even want leather interior.
I know there are a handful of new-model, modern vehicles that everyone says are a better choice. I don’t like their look, and the models I’ve tried I don’t like their fit. To me, those seem the models for status seekers.
nickw
Adventurer
I'm in the camp of proven system vs simple concepts...while we have a simple "concept" that IG has been pushing, how that is executed is going to be KEY and it's waaayyy to early to tell on a IG as of now. Even my 2001 Tacoma had issues with the Elocker that was a huge PITA to fix....took it in to Toyota and they wanted to replace the whole axle assembly, I had 2 Toyota dealers within 20 minutes of me and it took me forever to sort out.
My Ram 2500 has manual seats, manual brake and can be had with manual Tcase also....cool, but my buddy with his LC200 has all the fancy doodads and zero issues. It's the lipstick on the proverbial pig that makes it feel old school, reality is, the important things need to be right first and foremost.....engine, trans, axle, steering, chassis reliability for any of the old school simple features to be meaningful.
CanyonLX
Active member
Without question the IG could do the Black Bear Pass. Now, debating a brand new offering to a LC is probably not the best idea; it would all come down to personal preference.
Timcampsallover
Tree top flyer
Yes. Although BBP has seen some serious accidents these last few years. I’ve driven the Alpine Loop (not BBP) in my Tacoma and based on my two- off road coursework “test drives” in the Grenadier, absolutely it can handle anything like those trails. The turning radius is actually one thing that has me a little concerned as it seems to be larger than comparably sized vehicles…. So engineer pass, corkscrew, the starting part outside Ouray, all good…Blackbear? 🤷🏼♂️
plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
Pretty good review of a basic trail- what’s up with those “Westin” style side steps though…
naks
Well-known member
Ineos officially opens Sub-Saharan African headquarters in Cape Town – With a seafront 4×4 track for customers: https://topauto.co.za/news/90184/in...rters-in-cape-town-with-a-seafront-4x4-track/
CanyonLX
Active member
Those side steps are an add on option, likely popular with the soccer and flag football shuttling market. Looks way better without. They are 100% not sliders by any form or function.
plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
IMO this will be bought by 50 year old and up men with disposable income- maybe they want those sidesteps? I just think the guy buying this vehicle has a certain taste for things and those side steps miss the mark.
Cayenne-958-TDI
Active member
From the Boise IG dealership -
Did not know there are 110 plugs in the tailgate:
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Did not know there are 110 plugs in the tailgate:
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You could drive it straight from the dealer to black bear pass, air down the tires a bit and have no issues. BBP is not that technical, it has a couple spots but more then anything it is about taking your time and paying attention.
naks
Well-known member
"They say there is no such thing as a bad new car. They clearly haven’t driven this. Atrocious, dangerous thing that makes you wonder if it was signed off in the pub it was named after: “Yeah, that looks ok. Pint?”. Ineos has pumped in an extra €700m taking the total to €1.7bn."
givemethewillys
Jonathan Chouinard
Did the guy elaborate at all? This is the first negative review I've heard of the ineos, most I've seen have been pretty favorable. I'll admit that I haven't cared enough to dive deep though, since they priced it out of my range.