Isuzu npr 4wd

gator70

Active member
Just to clarify, that is opposite...

More than double is common for 5 series pickups. I don't think switching to super singles would dictate equal loading. The front tires would simply be way below their capacity. Using LT tires on the front seems like a sensible way to go, but don't recall anyone doing that.

I agree that more equal weight distribution would be better for offroad performance.

Good tip to load the rear of the crewcab with weight. Now thinking about that space utilization. Especially when extra passengers are not aboard.
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
The reason not to build on US pickup trucks platforms
That's a pretty broad statement and one that I don't think is really justified.

There have been numerous examples of chassis breaking on Fuso/Isuzu light trucks, simply because of poor design choices or, probably the most common, bad weight distribution.
One problem, as I see it, is that there are not a lot of hard fast rules in the US when it comes to how campers have to be built. That is definitely not the case in Australia.

A case in point is the amount of overhang that is legally allowed behind the rear axle.
Here there is what is often referred to as the 60% rule, where the maximum overhang cannot be more than 60% of the wheelbase past the centre of the rear axle.
This is not limited to the main structure of the camper, but also includes anything else that is stuck onto the rear, like a motorbike carrier for example.

Good design is the key, not necessarily the type of vehicle being used.
 

Ultimark

Active member
Just to clarify, that is opposite...

More than double is common for 5 series pickups. I don't think switching to super singles would dictate equal loading. The front tires would simply be way below their capacity. Using LT tires on the front seems like a sensible way to go, but don't recall anyone doing that.

I agree that more equal weight distribution would be better for offroad performance.

With regard to essentially very heavy duty passenger vehicles with a tub on the rear, as in your Toyota Tundra, then you may have a point; I'm not sure.

Here we are talking about a Japanese 4x2 delivery truck that is delivered from the factory as a cab chassis only vehicle with a gross vehicle mass of somewhere around 7500kg to 8000kg dependent upon the country and registration requirements.

This is being converted to a 4x4 cab chassis running a super single wheel/tyre combination, which in turn is a completely different type of vehicle to an ex factory cabin with a tub on the rear type of vehicle.

I have no idea what a 5 series pickup vehicle is, could you elaborate please? They sound interesting.

Mick.
 

rruff

Explorer
What I meant by 5 series is Ford 550 or Ram 5500 pickups with GVWR in the 19k lb range, and over 2/3 of that on the rear axle. These are commonly used in the US for large offroad rigs.

My Tundra is pretty balanced front and rear.
 

gator70

Active member
After taking possession of my habitat. I'm convinced some other composite builders are making mistakes with mounting this to their trucks. The composite material is not equipped for frame mount without other engineering.

I've seen two other solutions other builders sell.

One was with the composite material in a sandwich construction with marine plywood in the core.
The common one was tubes inside the core of the composite panel for attachment points.

It is highly likely the core material will separate in high stress situations.

Both are highly inadequate.
 
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gator70

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Four season habitat designs with a shower prevent the shower drain from exiting the habitat floor. Since the grey water tank is located above the floor, a boat based design must be used. A 3" tank below the shower floor and a sump pump must be used to provide water flow into a gray water tank higher than the shower floor.

I am happy to have a 6' 7" ceiling height in the habitat interior.
 
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