Perfect Overlander?

Rosco862003

Adventurer
I figured the title would draw alot of attention to the thread. But after driving my rusty, crusty yet trusty 1990 nissan hardbody into the ground without an overdrive I began taking note of what I liked about the vehicle and what I didn't like about the vehicle. Obviously one can do an overland trip with a motorcyle, or hell even a Honda Civic for that matter. So the idea of spending hundreds of thousands on a rig seems ridiculous if you can grasp the concept of compromise.

Several things that I liked about the truck was its small size and ability to fit into tight trails as it was a regular cab. I also enjoyed being able to throw a blanket in the back and take a nap. The reliability was a major plus as I bought the truck for only $650 so was amazed that it never failed overheated or even leaked a bit of liquid gold. What I didn't like however was the mpg and power. You grow tired of people flicking you off for barely being able to do the speed limit! Also I grew tired of the squeaky, flex inhibiting IFS that crushed my dreams of ever giving it true hell or going places that I said to myself "only if I trusted those damn CV axles!"

Now as with everything in life nothing is perfect but in the quest for a new rig I can't help but to keep coming back to a 12 valve quad cab short bed Ram 2500 with an NV4500. This rig seems like the ideal candidate for serious abuse with the only drawbacks in my eyes being its larger size and parts availabilty as you travel outside of the US. They also seem to have a bulletproof drivetrain in addition to excellent mpg (20mpg+) relative to its size, power and incredible reliabilty. The only thing I am unsure of is frame strength, which I assume is pretty good considering it is a 3/4 ton workhorse. I was wondering why you don't see more of these rigs in the expedition world or if there is something to them that I am overlooking. I know different people have different needs or requirements from their vehicles but it seems like everyone always flocks to Land Rovers and Land Cruiser(understandably). However, I'm wondering if they only do so because that is the accepted norm and what everyone else gets. I honestly can't see myself buying a Land Rover due to their horrible track record for reliabilty but again diferent strokes for different folks. So please feel free to enlighten me if there is something I don't see!
 

RU55ELL

Explorer
I think an SUV would be your best bet for a good overlander. You really can't go wrong with an Xterra or a 4runner honestly. Plenty of cargo room, plenty of power for the freeway and good mileage. Great track records on both and a huge aftermarket for upgrades.
 

maximumrob

Adventurer
I'll take an educated guess as to why there aren't more of them on *this* forum.

1. Too heavy. Have you ever tried to get through soft terrain in a 7,000-lb vehicle? On a rain-softened, non-maintained dirt road, you'll be all over the place, and eventually in the ditch. It takes SERIOUS mud tires to get those big trucks moving forward in the soft stuff, this I know for a fact. It's also really difficult to recover a stuck HD pickup due to the weight.
2. If you'll regularly be running down 2-track roads or even washboarded dirt roads, you'll punch yourself in the face for buying a 3/4-T truck unless it's loaded down *really* heavy to soften the ride. Some guys on this forum do just that.
3. Big trucks break big parts, requiring more space and larger tools and more sweating and grunting on your part when you're working on it.

All that said, go for it :) Even an average 4WD will get people further in to the backcountry than the average cummuter-schmuck thinks. Build it like it needs to be built for you, and then share your pics with us so we can have wet dreams about wheelin' a full-size!

FYI - there's a guy on this forum who just ran a bunch of Colorado trails in his freakin' MEGA CAB! Apparently, it can be done.
 

Desert Dan

Explorer
In my experience if it fits you came make it.
A locker, high clearance and low gears help.

Of course there are some "Jeep Trails" where size matters.
 

chasespeed

Explorer
Hey, I love my 12v powered rig.... a true work horse for every day, with mods to make it more......capable... all I have left to do, is selectable lockers... which will be a while....and throw my springs and shocks under the front...

Chase
 

Fireman78

Expedition Leader
Gosh I really hate to say this but you are starting to describe the Power Wagon. :sombrero: Not what you want to take out of the country though IMO.
 
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ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
Like this....

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Or.... I think this one was in a magazine years ago. Built for someone in the middle east???

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Found another!!

http://www.bayerautoinc.com/ramsuv.html
 
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78Bronco

Explorer
thanks for the feedback guys, still unsure of what I want to do however...

First off...Determine the budget!

Second...van suv truck.

Third...full mid or compact size

Fourth...gas or diesel

Fifth...brand and reliabilty

I followed this logic and ended up with mid size suv diesel from Japan for $13g's. Really low mileage, lots of room for us, proven rally platform, very reliable.:rally_guys:

Perfect in or at everything is not possible. It's a delicate balance of compromise.
 

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