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Pinnacle Campers

Chateau spotter
I'm actually a bit shocked that this has not been asked before (if it has I've just missed it) but how does the turning radius of a 6" lift 35" tire Ujoint leaf spring conversion compare to stock? What is the radius difference between the 6", 35" setup and a 4" lift 33" tire conversion?

How does the coil sprung setup compare with stock?



Any actual measurements?

Jeff

Believe it or not the 6"/35" has an increased turning radius over the 4"/33" leaf setup. It was one of the things that would be really nice to have, especially in the grocery store parking lot, :squint:
As I understand it when talking with MG there isn't and won't be a lower ride height kit. Not that it couldn't be done. Custom made coil springs are just a phone call away.
 

Jsweezy

Explorer
brian94ht - You could definitely lower the ride height if you wanted but its going to hurt the amount of up travel in the suspension and make for a harsher ride over jarring bumps. I personally wouldn't do it. That and with Chris's 4" rear springs it sits almost perfectly level.
 

mgmetalworks

Explorer
Run 33's instead of 35's and you're almost to your goal. There are also a few springs you can try that will sit lower but you'll lose bump travel.
 

ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
I'm actually a bit shocked that this has not been asked before (if it has I've just missed it) but how does the turning radius of a 6" lift 35" tire Ujoint leaf spring conversion compare to stock? What is the radius difference between the 6", 35" setup and a 4" lift 33" tire conversion?

How does the coil sprung setup compare with stock?

Any actual measurements?

Jeff

The 6" has a better turning radius because we can run a longer pitman arm. For our 4" leaf kit we keep the stock arm due to interferance between the arm and the D side leaf spring at full bump/lock left. Years ago I compared a stock van and a 6" with RSC upgrade. Full lock left, dove them in a complete circle and measured the difference. 1' less with the 6" RSC van. The coil conversion has a better turning radius than both but I haven't measured.

Another question....is the coil conversion kit only available in a 6" lift? Any way to get it closer to 4"?

Jeff

Yea pretty much. But, with the stock coils maybe a bit less?

Run 33's instead of 35's and you're almost to your goal. There are also a few springs you can try that will sit lower but you'll lose bump travel.

See my ? above? How about with the stock coils? same lift height?
 

ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
I just posted this to FB, will post here too. ---

Alright folks, I may be putting V8 up for sale to fund some other projects, will offer it here 1st and then she's going on eBay. 24k as is, add 4k if you want the 4wd conversion completed (transmission rebuild/4x4 conversion, shortened fuel tank, exhaust mods, t-case and driveshafts) Van has 260k on the clock, engine has 130k and is a 5.4. Was a locally owned fleet vehicle, bare cargo van. 4.56 gears, Stage1 front axle, coil conversion, 6" rear springs, new shackles and hardware, Fox 2.0 shocks and stabilizer, A-Team wrap, Aluminum front bumper, General Grabber X3 tires, Yukon diff covers, Rigid headlights, bushwhacker flares, Rigid reverse light in the bumper, cheapo 80s style lights above the windshield. Runs great, it will scoot! No issue with burnouts! Plenty of pics here on FB, PM me if interested and we're happy to outfit it anyway the new owner likes. Thanks

(no need to comment on the price and whether you like it or not)

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151fab

Observer
Chris, normally, hard mounting something from frame to body, in this case a ladder from the bumper to the roof rack would be bad but with the stiffness of the body on these e350 vans, is that rule nessesary? Aluminess somewhat does it with their tire mounts by having you mount the unit to the door hinge and frame but that's not nessesarily a "hard mount" either. Thoughts?
 

ujoint

Supporting Sponsor
Chris, normally, hard mounting something from frame to body, in this case a ladder from the bumper to the roof rack would be bad but with the stiffness of the body on these e350 vans, is that rule nessesary? Aluminess somewhat does it with their tire mounts by having you mount the unit to the door hinge and frame but that's not nessesarily a "hard mount" either. Thoughts?

I try to avoid it. Yes, Aluminess does with their rear swings but they also have issues with coming loose. And, its just there to add some support via a thin piece of metal so it has some give when twisted up. These vans are quite twisty, I'm sure that most of us have seen the interior lights come on when twisted up and forget about opening and closing the rear doors!
 

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
I just posted this to FB, will post here too. ---

Alright folks, I may be putting V8 up for sale to fund some other projects, will offer it here 1st and then she's going on eBay. 24k as is, add 4k if you want the 4wd conversion completed (transmission rebuild/4x4 conversion, shortened fuel tank, exhaust mods, t-case and driveshafts) Van has 260k on the clock, engine has 130k and is a 5.4. Was a locally owned fleet vehicle, bare cargo van. 4.56 gears, Stage1 front axle, coil conversion, 6" rear springs, new shackles and hardware, Fox 2.0 shocks and stabilizer, A-Team wrap, Aluminum front bumper, General Grabber X3 tires, Yukon diff covers, Rigid headlights, bushwhacker flares, Rigid reverse light in the bumper, cheapo 80s style lights above the windshield. Runs great, it will scoot! No issue with burnouts! Plenty of pics here on FB, PM me if interested and we're happy to outfit it anyway the new owner likes. Thanks

(no need to comment on the price and whether you like it or not)

16177562_1425598404126050_9125825429967835337_o.jpg

That van looked like a blast when I saw it. 28k seems a good deal for van + conversion + front bumper + wheels and tires, etc.
 

Pinnacle Campers

Chateau spotter
brian94ht - You could definitely lower the ride height if you wanted but its going to hurt the amount of up travel in the suspension and make for a harsher ride over jarring bumps. I personally wouldn't do it. That and with Chris's 4" rear springs it sits almost perfectly level.

You don't have any weight in the back, like nothing, gutted. Put campervan weight in the back and it will be saggy. I will post some measurements with my bed panels, drawer slide, fridge, etc. pulled out of BATVAN in my build thread.
Of course I have rear springs out of a 6" lift van so.....
 

Jsweezy

Explorer
You don't have any weight in the back, like nothing, gutted. Put campervan weight in the back and it will be saggy. I will post some measurements with my bed panels, drawer slide, fridge, etc. pulled out of BATVAN in my build thread.
Of course I have rear springs out of a 6" lift van so.....

True, I guess I should have said that. But even with a front axle loaded in the back of my van it still sat level.

I know Chris asks when your ordering springs what your hauling/ planning to do so I am sure if you wanted his 4" springs with a full interior build, he would make it so it would still sit at 4" regardless.

Edit - Actually it was a rear axle with brakes and everything like it would be pulled out of a van. Not sure how much that weighs.
 

Drizzt

Free Sarcasm Available
SoCal 7.3 is back from paint, ready to tear down! We already have it stripped, tranny goes to be built Monday and we have the frame ready to clean. Should have an axle under it by Tuesday or Wednesday.

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Is that a 2008+ front end?
 

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