Overland Journal Project Land Rover Discovery 4 (LR4)

[Eniam17]

That's great info. thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize it could get quite that complicated. If I'm running 31.5's on a daily driver I think I can get enough of a lift when I want to off-road by using the IID tool, and keep it at normal height for daily driving. I see why for the Overland Journal project and others with 33"s or primarily off road use, the rods or combination of rods and IID tool make sense. Thanks for the help. Great video of the LR4 as well.

 

[brickpaul65]

Scott,

If I remember correctly you used 265/70 R18's I have seen a few members of other forums put 285/65 R18 Nitto Trail Grapplers on their LR3's. I was curious on your opinion on putting 275/70 R18's (Duratracs). I know they would be taller than the 265/70 and the 285/65 tires. I was just curious if the 11" width vs the 12" would allow for the 275/70 to fit. Do you think the amount of trimming would be overkill/not possible? I am just curious because If I need to trim anyway, I thought I might be able to use this size. Unless the tire just would not fit. Would spacers make the issue worse or help?

Since you have done it and have a lot of experience I wondered if that size would fit and if so would the extra headache/extreme measures make it a silly undertaking.

Thanks

 

[SteveMfr]

A more detailed answer on #1.

It is possible the IIDTool can't give you the same height lift as rods - here's why.

The IIDTool (or others) are letting you play with the individual adjustment values for each height sensor. Each height sensor value will be a little bit different - so to level the car, there is a set value range for each sensor (up to 250). You cannot exceed 250 or it will throw a fault. Therefore the maximum lift you can get is the difference between highest value height sensor and 250. If you have a height sensor at 210, you can go up 40 points (which are almost equal to mm). But if for some reason you have a sensor with a much height reading like 230, you can only go up 20 points and you won't achieve a good amount of lift.

Rods don't have this same disadvantage as you are physically making the reading lower for the height sensor. For the majority of users the IIDTool gives a good amount of lift, but on some vehicles it might not get you as high as you want.

This is correct. For those wanting a large lift w/o adjustability, rods are a better choice. For those who would like the adjustability as well as a large lift, combining the EASControl or IIDTool with rods allows both.

 

[mcieplinski]

If you plan to run 265/65, then it will be ok. The 265/70 barely rubs with the tires straight in access mode.

Hi Scott,

Thanks a lot for all of your help. It is fantastic that you guys are building what is probably the first extreme offroad LR4.
Just one final question: I found a set of 2005-2006 LR3 18in wheels

Diameter: 18
Width: 8
Bolt Pattern: 5x120

Would these work with the spacers you mentioned in your earlier email? I am just not aware whether there have been any wheel changes between the LR 3 manufacture years (except for the design obviously).

Also - can't wait for your write up re ARB lockers!!!!!!!

Best,

Michal

 

[Scott Brady]

The front diff installed. The installation was completed just before SEMA, so I have limited images at the moment.

The LR4 on display at SEMA

 

[PetitFrereArmada]

Wow, very nice build.

 

[mr dw]

I got to see the Overland Journal LR4 at SEMA. Very nice looking indeed. I was stuck in our own booth most of the week www.deatschwerks.com - shameless plug =), but I did get out to see the cars. Very sad to say there were only a couple Land Rovers. There were probably over 100 jeeps!

 

[axels]

Hi,

So I am looking into getting some 18s for my LR4.

Few options are available:

1- Compomotive PD 1880 18x8 et44

2- LR3 18s 18x8 et53 plus 30mm spacers brings the offset down to 23...

3- XD Monster 18x9 et35... According to Wheelpros (manufacturer), both on their website and direct email communication, these (as well as a couple others) will fit the LR4. Here is a direct link to the selection offered: http://www.wheelpros.com/wheels?dia...bore=72.6&year=2010&make=Land Rover&model=LR4

1 is a very expensive option
2 might be the way to go
3 would be the way I want to go but I'm not sure they will actually fit. How will the caliper fit inside the rim? Would it require spacers

Does Scott use the wheel spacer to have the caliper outside of the rim or to get it where the rim is much more tapered and allows for the caliper to fit?

Any additional information would be truly appreciated. I have been searching this for months now and can't find the answer on my own (it's starting to drive me a little crazy).

Axel

 

[mpinco]

2011 LR4

I'm going the LR3 18" wheel route.

30mm spacers

From a test fit, the inner diameter of the LR3 rim tapers and just clears the LR4 caliper. The spacers set the wheel just far enough out to clear the caliper

Tires on order

 

[axels]

2011 LR4

I'm going the LR3 18" wheel route.

30mm spacers

From a test fit, the inner diameter of the LR3 rim tapers and just clears the LR4 caliper. The spacers set the wheel just far enough out to clear the caliper

Tires on order

Might be what I'm going to do as well unless someone can give me more in-depth information.

 

[axels]

Mpinco,

Just purchased 5 LR3 18s.
I'm pretty excited about it.
What tire size are you going with?

Axel

 

[proper4wd]

Any updates on how the air lockers work?

I am curious if the stability control system has any issues.

 

[mpinco]

Mpinco,

Just purchased 5 LR3 18s.
I'm pretty excited about it.
What tire size are you going with?

Axel

My requirements are winter snow traction, summer 4WD in Colorado, towing and a maximum tire diameter of 31.5". I didn't want to permanently lift the truck. Also of consideration is that the LR4 is 5800lbs and when loaded with trailer in tow, I'll be just over 7000lbs.

I think the Cooper A/T3 is an excellent tire. Designed by the former Mickey Thompson / ******** Cepek team, it excels in many areas. Limited to 31.5" the only tire they offer is a 265/65-18 P-rated / 112 load range tire. They do not offer a LT in that spec.

The General Grabber AT2 is also an excellent tire. Many consider it a hybrid, a cross between AT and off road. The 285/60-18 meets the 31.5" diameter requirement, is a LT tire and E-rated.

BFG offers a AT KO in 265/65-18, LT and E-rated but for 5 tires they want $1600+. Wow

I went with the GG AT2 and will run them at 35-40psi (max is 80). The ride will be stiffer but hoping that can managed with psi.

 

[pgoodrich]

Scott, what about the airbag bypass and bump stop extensions did you get that completed yet? If so can you please share your experience.

 

[nwoods]

Scott, what about the airbag bypass and bump stop extensions did you get that completed yet? If so can you please share your experience.

LOL, he make take a little while to get back to you. He's literally at the South Pole right now