rayra
Expedition Leader
I hope several people have sufficiently mocked this pile of trolling nonsense already?
The AR-15
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I hope several people have sufficiently mocked this pile of trolling nonsense already?
I ignore that stuff, had a buddy who has an ar15 argue that the max effective range was 250m because that's as far as they with them in the airforce. He just did not believe the army shot out to 300m and the marines further than that. 7sing irons sights of course. There are so haters, ar haters, 1911 haters and glock haters. So I just go with what I feel is my favorite and do my own thing.
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plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
Hopefully stumps post was a joke.
plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
Reliability, 4x vs 3x, weight, no batteries, no auto shut off, range estimation, ability to hold zero, more accurate poi adjustments.....and preference. The horseshoe reticule is pretty quick at closer distances compared to the chevrons reticules of old (imo) and bridges the gap pretty well while maintaing the things i like about an acog.
My shorty has a eotech with a mag on it right now, and i do dozens and dozens of missions a year with it. I like the open field of view and the reticule for close stuff, but i have a hard time trusting the reliability of it and i dont like the auto off. For a field length gun/truck gun/just me i prefer the acog. Working in teams, in buildings, in vehicles with short barrels i prefer a red dot. The aimpoints are unquestionably more reliable than the eotechs and hold zero better...they dont have an auto off and the batteries last longer. I think the only thing the eotechs do best is field of view and reticule design. Its fast and open...but i imagine ill switch to the aimpoint micro or the mro next time i have an eotech failure. Im just tired of dealing with eotech issues.
In my dreams L3/eotech would get their act together and make a red dot with the durability and quality of a trijicon, but i think thats a long wait on a train don't come. I certainly dont spend my own money on them.....if i were to buy my own red dot/3x, id probably do the trijicon MRO amd the vortex magnifier. Probably the best combination of durability, quality, and value on the market right now. Also, eotechs from years back on the double AA batteries and the 1/65moa reticule seem to be a lot better than ones made recently. The quality of the projection also seems to be better on the old ones. The newer ones seem to double/distort the projection of the center dot and bloom alot more.
Im not necessarily saying one is absolutely better than another for all situations, I use them for different purposes.
Its all about the right tools for the job....my different set ups use different optics and even different zero's. On a 14.5 with a red dot i expect to use in open ranges, ill run a 300m zero. On a 14.5 or a shorty for urban environments ill use a 200m zero. Ill mark the other zero on the optic so i can switch back and forth on the fly if i want. Thats why i really prefer the aimpoint to the eotech. With a trijicon, aimpoint, schmidt and bender, or a steiner i know that each click of windage or elevation is exactly what they say it is, and its what they say it is every time. So i can set it to a 200 zero and mark a 300m zero and change it if i want, on the fly. With eotech or nightforce, im not confident they will hold the zero and im not confident that the click is what they say it is and im not confident its consistent. Eotechs and nigtforce i always have to set to one zero and if i change anything i need to check the grouping.
It really kills me when i see someone say that "x piece of equipment is the special sauce". I just dont agree. Its the special sauce for them, maybe, but not the end all be all. Be it lights, optics, brands, zeros whatever. Sure, there are some that may be more universal than others but that doesnt mean better. My favorite right now im seeing are weapon lights. People are doing one of two things: buying the little mini lights they see "top ops" using or just going for the most lumens possible. Its ridiculous. Just because you saw a picture of one dude that looked cool using that piece of equipment doesnt mean its the end all be all. He probably just put the tools he needed into the job at hand. I wouldnt use a 300len mini body tight beam light for a field gun and i dont want a 600 lumen light on a shorty/house gun. As an operator, i can have preferences, but they cant be rigid. It has to flex to the conditions and the requirements. As an instructor i strive to teach the same thing.
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If i had to hazard a guess it would have to do with point of focus. Its really common for people to look through the optic and the reticule and onto the target which affects the shot grouping. Its pretty normal and easy to do, especially if you hadnt used them much before hand.
Yeah. M855 can be rather obnoxious in that regard. I was actually surprised to see that much flash in the picture. Behind the gun it wasnt terribly noticeable. I guess the rail/muzzle shroud design does serve a purpose. It was still fine under NODs later on.
Ill follow up with you on that other thing soon
Ill follow up with you on that other thing soon
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screwball48
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